win 8.1 sucks

[Izzy]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

Beyond disabling the metro UI I can't think of anything about windows 8 that isn't as good or better than windows 7.

[choof]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

windows 8 uses resources better than windows 7 does but the interface is a trackwreck for anyone that's not a new user

[Izzy]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

So once you disable that new UI then what is the problem?

[Wafles]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

I might be in the minority who actually likes metro but you can pretty much disable it entirely, and eliminate it all together practically with http://startisback.com/

Once you do that you have a better Windows 7. Only complaints I ever hear that are legitimate about Win8 is the UI. Billium's issue is quite irregular IMO

[hi19hi19]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

So basically you have to spend money on windows 8 to get it to be windows 7



Or you could just have gotten windows 7 in the first place, which is cheaper to get than windows 8 anyway and doesn't require a separate product for it to not be utter shit.

[Wafles]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

If you want to take the cheaper route and get 7 thats fine, nothing wrong with that by itself.

Windows 8 is still better, and if spending $2.99 to improve the UI is what's breaking the deal for you then lol... just lol...

[choof]

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So once you disable that new UI then what is the problem?

Maybe we're looking at this in two different ways. Tweaking Windows 8 to run like Windows 7/Windows XP takes online tutorials, time, and effort. A large reason that people even know what "Metro" means is because there are so many articles online that tell you how unwieldy it is.

For users, especially when it comes to the average user (trust me, you and I are both not average users), Windows 8 is a step backwards. A bunch of things are "broken." You can get Windows 8 to boot straight to desktop, but this involves know-how. You can get files to open in desktop applications and not Metro, but this involves know-how. You can get the start menu back (which has quite literally been a major defining feature of Windows since Windows '95). but this involves know-how, and some money. You can remove bloatware, but this is far harder than it is on Windows 7 and involves know-how. You can have multiple windowed Metro apps running on the desktop, but this involves third-party applications (which means it's not truly native). Getting Windows 8 to look and feel like an operating system that has dominated the market for over 20 years, takes time, effort, third-party applications, and extra money. This is not indicative of a good operating system, and this isn't even my opinion. There are hundreds, if not thousands of articles online about why Windows 8 is a step in the wrong direction, and there is a very vocal community that is sticking with Windows 7, because even though Windows 8 handles resources better than Windows 7 (YMMV), Windows 7 is better than Windows 7.

You don't change a tried-and-true formula after 20 years.

[Izzy]

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So basically you have to spend money on windows 8 to get it to be windows 7

There are a few free alternatives. After that it has plenty of improvements on windows 7.

It just seems silly to say "windows 8 sucks" because of something you can fix with a 5mb program and 30 seconds of time. I doubt the tech illiterate masses will ever figure it out, but for me it has worked far better than win7 ever has.

Not to say Microsoft didn't make a mistake and I'd imagine they will try and separate the desktop release and the tablet/touchscreen releases in the future.

[tosh]

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I mentioned before that I haven't had any problems with 8.1, but I guess that wasn't entirely correct.
1. Flash 9 standalone likes to completely black out my screen if I try to change any settings when playing FFR. This happens on multiple engines, so I'm guessing it's something on Flash's end and not FFR.
2. Some programs don't support win 8.1 very well. Hearthstone has to be run in win7 compatibility mode or it can render every program on your computer inoperable when you close out of it and you're forced to do a hard shut down.
3. I have charms turned off but they still show up. Go figure.
4. The fact that Control Panel and PC Settings are two different applications (with PC Settings being a Metro app) is incredibly dumb.
5. The pre-installed Skype Metro app is terrible omg.

1. You can get files to open in desktop applications and not Metro, but this involves know-how.

2. You can get the start menu back (which has quite literally been a major defining feature of Windows since Windows '95). but this involves know-how, and some money.

1. I've never had any files open up in Metro (and I've never fiddled with any settings in that regard).

2. There is a built-in option that makes the metro page look kinda like a full screen start menu (that you can easily exit out of via the windows key). It's in the same area as where you select to boot straight to desktop.

Example of what it looks like (desktop background is in the bg, obv).

[Wafles]

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5. The pre-installed Skype Metro app is terrible omg.

this is true, metro skype is a fucking trainwreck

[RNGRX]

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Windows 8 comes with Hyper-V. Windows 8 is the shit. I just don't know how to navigate the GUI.

[Sidek]

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totally agree win 8.1 sucks

[choof]

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I'm going to humbly bump this thread because after working with 8 and Server 2012...

Windows 8 comes with Hyper-V. Windows 8 is the shit.

This. Absolutely. Fucking. Owns.

[choof]

Re: win 8.1 sucks

The interface still sucks and will always suck, but the resource management in 2012, when compared to 2008, is definitely noticeable.

At this point I still wouldn't recommend that people make the switch from 7 to 8/8.1 (especially since 10 is in development), but running Server 2012 instead of 2008 absolutely makes a difference.

[lurker]

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wait why the fuck are you people paying for start menus in windows 8 are you retarded