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  • Think0028
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 8

    #1

    Something bad happened with my 1st upload

    So, I uploaded this song: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=19528

    Upload went without a hitch, the music is up, and the right steps are up. Problem is, the pitch of the MP3 is horribly, horribly off, and the steps seem to be going twice as fast as they're supposed too. Is there some common mistake I made? I put in the same BPM as the song has ingame, and the song works perfectly well on my computer.
  • HammyMcSquirrel
    Everlong
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Dec 2004
    • 3833

    #2
    Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

    Sounds like you need to adjust the sample rate of the .mp3. Is it at 44,100 Hz?
    Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 09-22-2007, 11:49 AM.

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    • Think0028
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 8

      #3
      Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

      Originally posted by HammyMcSquirrel
      Sounds like you need to adjust the Hz of the .mp3. Is it at 44,100 Hz?
      ... ok, you lost me. It's possible to adjust the Hz of mp3's?

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      • HammyMcSquirrel
        Everlong
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        FFR Music Producer
        • Dec 2004
        • 3833

        #4
        Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

        Originally posted by Think0028
        ... ok, you lost me. It's possible to adjust the Hz of mp3's?
        Yeah. It's the sample rate, as I edited in my previous post to make a little more sense. You can see what it is by looking at the properties of the .mp3.

        Here is the thread that explains potential problems with uploading simfiles to resonance:
        http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=50343

        If you do need to adjust the sample rate, you will need a program that will allow you to re-save the .mp3 and change the settings for that .mp3, such as Sound Forge.
        Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 09-22-2007, 11:56 AM.

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        • Think0028
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 8

          #5
          Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

          Seems like that's the problem, it says the sample rate is 48k Hz. Will changing it affect the speed of the song at all? I.E. will I have to redo the steps?

          EDIT: Wow, after changing the sample rate, it sounds exactly as bad as it did in the upload. Hmm...
          Last edited by Think0028; 09-22-2007, 12:05 PM.

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          • HammyMcSquirrel
            Everlong
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            FFR Music Producer
            • Dec 2004
            • 3833

            #6
            Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

            Originally posted by Think0028
            Seems like that's the problem, it says the sample rate is 48k Hz. Will changing it affect the speed of the song at all? I.E. will I have to redo the steps?
            I had a similar problem and it didn't affect the simfile itself after I fixed the sample rate. It shouldn't mess-up the .mp3 with your steps, but make a duplicate of the folder before you change it, just in case.

            Edit:
            Wow, after changing the sample rate, it sounds exactly as bad as it did in the upload. Hmm...
            Make sure you have a bitrate that works, too. I believe the standard bitrate and sample rate for a .mp3 is 128kbps and 44,100 Hz.
            Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 09-22-2007, 12:08 PM.

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            • Think0028
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 8

              #7
              Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

              Originally posted by HammyMcSquirrel
              Make sure you have a bitrate that works, too. I believe the standard bitrate and sample rate for a .mp3 is 128kbps and 44,100 Hz.
              I must be doing something very wrong then, or this MP3 just isn't going to work. Changing the bitrate and Hz to that still had it off-pitch and slow, although a little less than it was. Any other ideas?

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              • HammyMcSquirrel
                Everlong
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                FFR Music Producer
                • Dec 2004
                • 3833

                #8
                Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                Originally posted by Think0028
                I must be doing something very wrong then, or this MP3 just isn't going to work. Changing the bitrate and Hz to that still had it off-pitch and slow, although a little less than it was. Any other ideas?
                Hmm...Well, that should have fixed things up...You can try having a sample rate of 22,050 Hz, and see if that fixes anything.

                What bitrate was the .mp3 originally at?

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                • Think0028
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                  Originally posted by HammyMcSquirrel
                  Hmm...Well, that should have fixed things up...You can try having a sample rate of 22,050 Hz, and see if that fixes anything.

                  What bitrate was the .mp3 originally at?
                  Originally at 192 Kbps. Trying 22,050 Hz right now.

                  EDIT: Results:

                  128 Kbps wasn't available as an option, so I had to go with 80 Kbps.

                  Really, really, really slow. I believe this is why it also is really really low pitched. Hmmm.
                  Last edited by Think0028; 09-22-2007, 12:33 PM.

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                  • HammyMcSquirrel
                    Everlong
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                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3833

                    #10
                    Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                    Originally posted by Think0028
                    Originally at 192 Kbps. Trying 22,050 Hz right now.

                    EDIT: Results:

                    128 Kbps wasn't available as an option, so I had to go with 80 Kbps.

                    Really, really, really slow. I believe this is why it also is really really low pitched. Hmmm.
                    Okay, I think it may have something to do with the bitrate, then. You tried 128kbps and 44,100 Hz before, right? Try using 192 kbps with 44,100 Hz, this time.

                    Edit: Wait...Unless you tried that before, then maybe try 160 kbps. XD

                    I am guessing that it is something to do with the bitrate that is making it slow, though. You'll have to mess around with that under a sample rate of 44,100 Hz and see how it turns out.

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                    • Think0028
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                      With the 160 kbps, much, much closer, but it's still a little off, and a little different timing. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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                      • HammyMcSquirrel
                        Everlong
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3833

                        #12
                        Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                        Originally posted by Think0028
                        With the 160 kbps, much, much closer, but it's still a little off, and a little different timing. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
                        What's weird is that I would think it would work out with 192 kbps (what it was originally at). You've tried...128 kbps, 160 kbps, and 192 kbps. You can try going one more up and see the results on that.

                        If it is still off after trying all of those bitrates, then I am not sure why Resonance isn't working correctly with it. Let me know the results you get as you increase it.

                        Edit: When you say it is off, do you mean the .mp3 pitch is off still, or the timing of the arrows to the song is off? If it is the timing, then that is a natural problem with Resonance and its gap.
                        Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 09-22-2007, 12:56 PM.

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                        • Think0028
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                          Originally posted by HammyMcSquirrel
                          What's weird is that I would think it would work out with 192 kbps (what it was originally at). You've tried...128 kbps, 160 kbps, and 192 kbps. You can try going one more up and see the results on that.

                          If it is still off after trying all of those bitrates, then I am not sure why Resonance isn't working correctly with it. Let me know the results you get as you increase it.

                          Edit: When you say it is off, do you mean the .mp3 pitch is off still, or the timing of the arrows to the song is off? If it is the timing, that is a natural problem with Resonance and its gap.
                          It's off for both.

                          A) The timing of arrows is off.
                          B) The song was originally 3:29 when I made the arrows, but now it's 3:43 for the 44.1k and 192 kbps.
                          C) The pitch is off, which I believe is related to the time off, but I'm not certain.

                          EDIT: YES! I got it working! 224 kbps got it perfectly. Thanks for all the help!

                          Here's the link.
                          Last edited by Think0028; 09-22-2007, 01:10 PM.

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                          • HammyMcSquirrel
                            Everlong
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                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 3833

                            #14
                            Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

                            Originally posted by Think0028
                            It's off for both.

                            A) The timing of arrows is off.
                            B) The song was originally 3:29 when I made the arrows, but now it's 3:43 for the 44.1k and 192 kbps.
                            C) The pitch is off, which I believe is related to the time off, but I'm not certain.
                            Yeah, the pitch being off is related to why the time is longer on the song.

                            So to go over the results...All with a sampling rate of 44,100 Hz:
                            128 kbps - Slower pitch.
                            160 kbps - Close to the right pitch, but still off. Slower or faster pitch?
                            192 kbps - Slower pitch?

                            22,050 Hz didn't work, since the bitrate was too low for the .mp3 under that sampling rate.

                            There are still 224 kbps, 256 kbps, and 320 kbps as options under a sampling rate of 44,100 Hz. If you have tried all of those and it still hasn't worked, then I would suggest sending a pm to rickz0rz (he handles resonance, in my understanding) about this, explaining what you have tried so far.

                            I am curious as to what results you do get with those new bitrates and why this isn't working correctly.

                            Edit:
                            YES! I got it working! 224 kbps got it perfectly. Thanks for all the help!
                            Nice! I'm glad it worked out!
                            Last edited by HammyMcSquirrel; 09-22-2007, 01:13 PM.

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                            • Janeille
                              FFR Player
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 129

                              #15
                              Re: Something bad happened with my 1st upload

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