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  • Dugray
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2007
    • 37

    #1

    SM Editor

    Is there a way to have the song you want to edit playing as the beats go up and add your arrows while listening to the song with the beat showing at the same time? Or can you only tweak your song by doing "Play Whole Song" or the other one?
  • Hr2
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2005
    • 2350

    #2
    Re: SM Editor

    Are you talking about record mode? Accessed in the SM Editor by pressing either ctrl+r or alt+r I think.

    It's NOT recommended by any experienced stepfile author.

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    • Dugray
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 37

      #3
      Re: SM Editor

      Originally posted by Hr2
      Are you talking about record mode? Accessed in the SM Editor by pressing either ctrl+r or alt+r I think.

      It's NOT recommended by any experienced stepfile author.
      What are the reasons cited for not the non-recommendation? Or do they just feel that doing it manually and step by step provides a better simfile?

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      • robodo
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2005
        • 54

        #4
        Re: SM Editor

        As long as you have the right BPM, doing it manually would probably give you a better SimFile.

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        • Engler
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 2340

          #5
          Re: SM Editor

          The reason you should do it manually is because I doubt you have perfect timing. If you press your keyboard a nanosecond earlier, you may end up having a 64th note instead of a 4th note. Yes, doing it manually might be a pain in the ass, but trust me on this one---do it the hard way.

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          • Dugray
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 37

            #6
            Re: SM Editor

            Originally posted by Engler
            The reason you should do it manually is because I doubt you have perfect timing. If you press your keyboard a nanosecond earlier, you may end up having a 64th note instead of a 4th note. Yes, doing it manually might be a pain in the ass, but trust me on this one---do it the hard way.
            I don't have perfect timing whether I do it the easy way or the hard way though :P

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            • Engler
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 2340

              #7
              Re: SM Editor

              Regardless, if you change your cursor to 4th notes and press "1,2,3,or 4", you will inevitably make a 4th note appear, so your timing is a trivial factor (if and only if you're doing it the manual way).

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              • solopro
                FFR Player
                • May 2006
                • 448

                #8
                Re: SM Editor

                Originally posted by Hr2
                Are you talking about record mode? Accessed in the SM Editor by pressing either ctrl+r or alt+r I think.

                It's NOT recommended by any experienced stepfile author.
                Yeah, record is crappy.
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                • who_cares973
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 15407

                  #9
                  Re: SM Editor

                  i use record to have a rough feel of what im going to step and then everything else is manual

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                  • Hr2
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2350

                    #10
                    Re: SM Editor

                    Well, it's actually not so much the timing issue. SM contains a quantize option, which means that you can make all the 64th and 48th notes turn into the closest 16th note. However, unless you have the entire song memorized, or that it's extremely simple and repetitive, then you're probably going to miss some little sounds. The little sounds are what makes a song unique, along with coherent and consistent patterns. It can take half an hour or sometimes more to perfect a pattern, and record mode affords much much less than that :P

                    It's just not a good idea, but some people use it for specific parts. For example if someone is speaking and they want to sync to the voice, they will put it in record mode for a few seconds to sync to the syllables.

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                    • operationstrawbarry
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 802

                      #11
                      Re: SM Editor

                      Manually is the best, but in some parts where melodies and drums could be a pain in the ass, keep playing the song and press one arrow only to get the rythm and the drums, then customize your arrowz... Thats how I do it

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                      • Ice wolf
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 852

                        #12
                        Re: SM Editor

                        Originally posted by Engler
                        The reason you should do it manually is because I doubt you have perfect timing. If you press your keyboard a nanosecond earlier, you may end up having a 64th note instead of a 4th note. Yes, doing it manually might be a pain in the ass, but trust me on this one---do it the hard way.
                        I think it's quite obvious that you would just go back and fix things like that, unless you can't, which would be weird.
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                        • Hr2
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2350

                          #13
                          Re: SM Editor

                          Originally posted by Ice wolf
                          I think it's quite obvious that you would just go back and fix things like that, unless you can't, which would be weird.
                          Or you can just quantize ;\

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                          • rshadow8888
                            FFR's Buizel
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 3120

                            #14
                            Re: SM Editor

                            I tried doing one song the recording way once. The first half the song went back and forth between perfect and totally off, and the second half I might as well have mashed my notes in it was so bad.

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