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  • XBmaster
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2006
    • 324

    #1

    Question about FFR Rank

    I just recently decided to go through and play all of the songs I could to try and get my overall rank up, but it seems like it should be higher.

    I'm currently at around 22,000. The only reason I think it should be lower is that because all but a few of my scores are ranked under 16,000 and the majority are under 10,000. (I'm using FFR - Level Rank Stats for this info)

    I'm not sure how exactly the rank is calculated and it seems like I'm missing something, so that's why I posted on the newbie forum.

    Any light you can shed on the rank or why it works out this way would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Noah


    EDIT:

    I just thought of something. Are Credits, Games Played, and Multiplayer level used in FFR Rank calculations, or is it just Your Grand Total?
    Last edited by XBmaster; 06-22-2007, 03:28 PM. Reason: New thoughts

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  • blindreper1179
    Vice President Of TGB
    • Jun 2006
    • 5900

    #2
    Re: Question about FFR Rank

    grand total is just your total points.

    nothing missing. those are your ranks on each song. and then averaged out.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
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    Originally posted by choof
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    Originally posted by Celirra
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    • XBmaster
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2006
      • 324

      #3
      Re: Question about FFR Rank

      That's what I thought, but if you averaged all of the ranks on my individual songs it would come out to some number below 10,000. I know it wouldn't be exact because different songs are worth different points, but it seems like it would be close, rather than about 12,000 off like mine is.

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      • blindreper1179
        Vice President Of TGB
        • Jun 2006
        • 5900

        #4
        Re: Question about FFR Rank

        if you added the ranks of each song and divided by the number of songs there, you should get the same average rank as the site.
        Originally posted by thesunfan
        absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
        Originally posted by choof
        It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
        Originally posted by choof
        whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
        Originally posted by Celirra
        I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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        • Engler
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 2340

          #5
          Re: Question about FFR Rank

          You grand total is the only factor for deciding your overall rank. For example if Sue has played 500 games and sucks, while Joe has played 50 games and is amazing, Sue will have a better rank than Joe, although Joe is far better at FFR than Sue is. Does that answer your question?

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          • XBmaster
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2006
            • 324

            #6
            Re: Question about FFR Rank

            blindreper1179 - Assuming average rank is the same thing as FFR Rank, which is what I'm talking about, then you can't be right because three songs are above my FFR Rank and the other 300+ are below it, so the average would be far below my FFR Rank.

            Engler - your answer makes sense, but how would I go about getting my Grand Total up if I've already played every song. (I know you're probably going to say get a better score on them, but like I said, most of mine are already in the top 10,000)

            I do appreciate the responses and sorry if I sound mean, I'm terrible at composing elegant posts when it's hard to convey what I'm really attempting to communicate to you all.

            Noah

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            • Doug31
              Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jun 2004
              • 6811

              #7
              Re: Question about FFR Rank

              You can up your grand total by playing songs you've already played additional times. Even if your old best is 1,000,000, and you score 900,000, it still adds 900,000 to your grand total score.

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              • XBmaster
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2006
                • 324

                #8
                Re: Question about FFR Rank

                Thank you very very much Doug31

                It all makes sense now.

                So FFR Rank really just decides who plays the most, rather than who's the best. I'm not sure if I agree with that approach, but at least I understand it now.

                Is there a way to see Grand total for just the top score on each song, because that's what I'm really interested in.

                Thanks again to everyone

                Noah

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                • AriesMalvis
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1345

                  #9
                  Re: Question about FFR Rank

                  yea...that's why they created the tier system
                  http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=64820

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                  • FalcoLombardi
                    FFR Player
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 360

                    #10
                    Re: Question about FFR Rank

                    i hate the tier system and it hates me lol




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                    • blindreper1179
                      Vice President Of TGB
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 5900

                      #11
                      Re: Question about FFR Rank

                      Originally posted by XBmaster
                      Is there a way to see Grand total for just the top score on each song, because that's what I'm really interested in.

                      no, but that would be interesting. and sorry for not understanding you.
                      Originally posted by thesunfan
                      absolutely I want to vomit on your face irl
                      Originally posted by choof
                      It was like trying to throw logic at a fuckin brick wall lmao
                      Originally posted by choof
                      whats more dense, a black hole or an icyworld file
                      Originally posted by Celirra
                      I've never been so disappointed by a man from Alabama than I am right now

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                      • Doug31
                        Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 6811

                        #12
                        Re: Question about FFR Rank

                        Yes there is. Go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelrank.php copy your level rank stats from there, paste them into excel, then have it sum up that whole column, and see what it comes up with.

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                        • XBmaster
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 324

                          #13
                          Re: Question about FFR Rank

                          That Tier system is absurd, but I guess it does show who's the best.

                          Thanks for all your help

                          EDIT (after missing Doug31's post):
                          That would give you the total, but what I really want to see is it compared to other users, because a number by itself doesn't really mean anything to me.
                          Last edited by XBmaster; 06-22-2007, 05:41 PM.

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                          • Doug31
                            Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!!
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 6811

                            #14
                            Re: Question about FFR Rank

                            Well, there's a thread that shows the best average rank of users, not their highest score on each song added up, but it's really pretty similar, since better score=better rank. To see this thread, go here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=65834 Be warned that the list there is of only the very best players in terms of average rank, so don't feel bad if you don't measure up to them.

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                            • XBmaster
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 324

                              #15
                              Re: Question about FFR Rank

                              Thanks for that link, it's pretty much what I was looking for. I noticed that the average rank is at the bottom of the level ranks page and currently I'm at 3812.4, but that should be getting lower and lower in the coming days, weeks, whenever. With this method, it seems that AAA's really boost it up, so I'm going to go back and do some easier songs to get those AAA's.

                              Thanks

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