Practice=memorize?

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  • jorallepat
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2003
    • 28

    #1

    Practice=memorize?

    ok, when you say practice, isn’t that just memorizing?

    I beat a song I had never been able to do before, am I better? or just know the song?
  • VxDx
    FFR Player
    • May 2003
    • 1871

    #2
    no, the key in bemani games is never memorization, it's pattern recognition. Memorization is just an after effect of playing a song a whole bunch, and even then, you only really memorize the beats, and not which key/pad is actually being hit.

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    • Freak83
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2003
      • 3281

      #3
      Welcome to the valley of the dead jorallepat.

      We don't really memorize arrows, ok you might have a better idea of when to press arrows in a song once you've played it many times. But if we played it with our eyes closed we would definatly still fail.

      And if you have beaten a song you have never been able to beat before... yes, you are better, I guarentee it. When I was new I could never beat FF7 then I finally beat it... then again after a few tries, and then it wasn't a problem anymore, etc, for different songs too. So yes, you are indeed getting better.

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      • jorallepat
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2003
        • 28

        #4
        Maybe I am just dense, but I don’t get it.

        I mean some of those songs! That seams humanly impossible to look at the arrows that fast

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        • Brainmaster07
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2003
          • 2891

          #5
          Nah, it's just practice. When new songs come out, say a level 8, people can FC it their first try just beause they're able to interprete the arrows. Give it a week or two then you'll be a whole lot farther then you thought was possible originally.

          When I started I was like "WTF? BTC is like impossible, how could anyone pass that" and now I'm second on For FFR and can get 150+ combos on revolutionary.

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          • eyespewgreekfire
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2003
            • 372

            #6
            personally, i see arrows in groups of four usually and sometimes two, three, or seven. When I see a right, then down, then up, then left arrow, i dont read each one alone. I see them together as a common pattern. If youre a really good bemani player like Reach or Volkov, you may even see larger patterns (I dont know)

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            • jorallepat
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2003
              • 28

              #7
              Ok thanks, but now I have another stupid question. How do you close full screen?

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              • jimerax
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Nov 2003
                • 8185

                #8
                Alt + F4.

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                • jorallepat
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 28

                  #9
                  thanks, back to dancing! err... button pushing

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                  • vvolkov0073
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 357

                    #10
                    It is easily possible to memorize songs, I have memorized a bunch or crap on stepmania (ie, i can do it just as well blinfolder/with the mointor off, as I can reading the arrows)

                    max300 is a big example...stealth...

                    - Volkov

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                    • makaveli121212
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2003
                      • 3823

                      #11
                      whats the point of that
                      Originally posted by VxDx
                      Stick it in her butt and pee.

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                      • hydrojakep
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 2293

                        #12
                        welcome jorellepat!



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                        • Yanah_God
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1330

                          #13
                          i have yet to memorize a song

                          i just see the arrows and my fingers move subconcsiously

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                          • Takisho
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 920

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Yanah_God
                            i have yet to memorize a song

                            i just see the arrows and my fingers move subconcsiously
                            Good, I'm not the only one.

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