FFR Hand Postitions Guide

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  • meiloyn
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2007
    • 291

    #31
    Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

    I tried out spread on Trip to the Moon a few days ago. It makes my wrists ache.
    My little corner of Local Reality Quotes:

    Zack: Okay, I've got tampons, a Venus razor, now to stop at Victoria's secret.
    Joe: Uh, I think you're taking this joke a little too far. Seriously. I can understand going off to buy a bra, but TAMPONS? You're starting to kill the joke. And do I really have to come with you?
    Zack: Shut up. It's funny.
    Last edited by Meiloyn : Today at 06:09 PM. Reason: Removed NSFW content

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    • Billydude
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2006
      • 880

      #32
      Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

      Meaningful bump, I told some guy to look here to see hand positions. =/

      Originally posted by Chrissi
      If you eat a pizza it does not give you the urge to fly a kite.
      Originally posted by beaner692
      What if Billy talked to her? hes irrisistable

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      • Gadwin
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2006
        • 5

        #33
        Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

        Originally posted by Billydude
        3 fingered two hand: This is the hand position that mostly average/pretty good players use.

        Fingering:
        Dominant hand index finger goes on: alternates on up and down arrow key v ^
        Dominant hand middle finger goes on: right arrow key >
        Off hand index finger goes on: left arrow key <

        Advantages:
        1. It is less draining than one handed.
        2. Quick jumps and 16ths are easier.

        Disadvantages:
        1. It is harder to do up-down and left-up jumps.
        2. Players have to temporarily switch to index to do rolls/staircases.
        This is the one I used to use and kinda still do. However I would have:
        Right hand middle finger alternating up and down arrows v ^
        Right hand ring finger on right arrow >
        Left have middle finger on left arrow <


        However this method worked extremely well for the cascades, aka "staircase" as you merely needed to roll your right middle finger over the two keys.

        This style was pretty good, and I had been using it for a very long time until half my class got into the DDR thing when we were making out own DDR games, and started to play some FFR.

        I owned all the newcomers to FFR as I had extensive practice with StepMania. Then my good man FuxxorFox started using a new style.

        Spread: Spread is the position most veterans or elites play (including myself ). Spread is hard to master at first, especially if you started out one handed. But from experience, switching to spread will make you a better player. And before I explain fingering let me point out the number pad. The number pad is not the number above all the letters, it is on the very right of your keyboard and has numbers on it. If you look at the 8, 6, 4, and 2 you will notice they have arrows, these arrows can be used in FFR also.*
        *note: if you play Stepmania, you will have to go to options and map it or else this position won't work.

        Fingering:
        Left middle finger goes on: left arrow key <
        Left index finger goes on: down arrow key v
        Right index finger goes on: 8 numberpad
        Right middle finger goes on: 6 numberpad

        Advantages:
        1. It covers all 4 arrows
        2. It doesn't wear out your hand

        Disadvantages:
        1. It makes the up and right arrow keys jealous XD.
        2. Running men may be harder with this position.
        However with this one he used it with the four fingers upon the arrow keys, and at home, on his laptop the numpad.
        Left middle on <
        Left index on v
        right middle on ^
        right ring on >

        I recently only a few days ago tried to adopt the style. And it is pretty hard to convert, however, yeah, it is much better than what I was using. The main reason I started to change was because it was faster, and my keyboard at home is STICKINESS to the max. Seriously. So I adopted his style, on the numpad, and am doing OK with it. It takes a bit of getting used to.

        And while playing I found another advantage. After a few intense songs with my old style, I was getting tired. I came home today, and played with his style, and I'm absolutely fine. Only on a 5min or longer or so song put pain on my hand and even then, it stopped after the song was over and a few min.

        Then here I am. Whats my rank?
        Ah. 29,000 on the dot.
        I shant play anymore tonight, as I have played quite a bit and earned a few hundred credits in the past while.

        Anyways, thats my story. Probably no one took the time to read it anyway. Oh well.
        Last edited by Gadwin; 03-9-2007, 09:12 PM.

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        • stlunatic0124
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2005
          • 3228

          #34
          Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

          I wouldn't exactly consider novacaine an elite.

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          • prettypapercuts
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2007
            • 34

            #35
            Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

            Please do not kill me.. just saying I use 2 hands, four fingers... been doing that since I started. *Right index:^, Left index: v, Right middle: >, Left middle: <. As soon as I first saw FFR last year that's the exact way I started and I haven't changed it. But it does tired my wrists and arms out quickly though, but then again that may be the virus eating away at my joints. Stupid virus. But yeah anyways, the only reason I say this is because I haven't talked to anyone that does it this way.. and Gadwin just mentione dit.


            Originally posted by massflavour
            you want to be "blown" by a 7 year old tranny pirate?

            I guess that beats playing ffr.

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            • meno_rocks123
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2005
              • 2324

              #36
              Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

              Dominant hand index finger goes on: left arrow key <
              Dominant hand middle finger goes on: alternates on up and down arrow key v ^
              Dominant hand ring finger goes on: right arrow key >
              left-handed anyone?
              3 fingered two hand: This is the hand position that mostly average/pretty good players use.
              once again, wrong. Who the hell uses two hands and doesn't use four fingers?
              2. Running men may be harder with this position.
              running men are hard no matter what style you use. don't keep it just to spread.

              and you missed four-fingered two-handed. two hands, all on the arrow keys.


              nice sticky fish, but it is fail.

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              • DarkbearX
                Shimose
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 1995

                #37
                Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                Originally posted by meno_rocks123
                running men are hard no matter what style you use. don't keep it just to spread.
                Actually, I think indexers have a huge advantage with running men. I'm not exactly sure, as I'm not index, but they seem like they'd be simple =\.

                p.s. I really suck at running men.
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                • bmah
                  shots FIRED
                  Profile Moderator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  Global Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8448

                  #38
                  Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                  Originally posted by meno_rocks123
                  Who the hell uses two hands and doesn't use four fingers?

                  and you missed four-fingered two-handed. two hands, all on the arrow keys.
                  :3 :3 I sometimes use two hands with two fingers, so HA! It works pretty well on some occasions.

                  And ya, Billydude has yet to update everything; I've suggested a different fingering position in an earlier post, but it's not up on his first post.

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                  • grafx5
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 42

                    #39
                    Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                    4 fingered one hand: I have only known one or 2 people who actually use this position actually, and I find it rather difficult. It is basically the same as the 3 fingered one hand techique, but instead of your middle finger controlling both the up and down arrows, your thumb controls the down arrow.

                    Fingering: The fingering is the same as 3 fingered one hand, except your thumb controls the down v arrow.

                    Advantages:
                    1. If one of your hands is extremely dominant over the other, this is a good way to cover all four keys.

                    Disadvantages:
                    1. It feels pretty awkward to most people.
                    2. It wears out your one hand.
                    The way I do 4-finger one hand is right index <, middle v, ring ^, pinky >. I started doing that to overcome the challenges faced using 3-finger when there is freeze in stepmania. Took me a while to get used to but it improved my playing skill by a huge amount.

                    I play on a laptop, so the keys are smaller than normal arrow keys, making it more comfortable to do this.

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                    • Billydude
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 880

                      #40
                      Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                      Originally posted by meno_rocks123
                      Who the hell uses two hands and doesn't use four fingers?
                      TS_SonicMaster. You'd be surprised, I think there are more people that use this position too.

                      P.S. Updating right now. =/

                      Originally posted by Chrissi
                      If you eat a pizza it does not give you the urge to fly a kite.
                      Originally posted by beaner692
                      What if Billy talked to her? hes irrisistable

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                      • MooMoo_Cowfreak
                        Abraxas Hydroplane
                        • May 2006
                        • 1746

                        #41
                        Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                        I noticed a four finger V2 in the making.

                        I play like so:

                        Left Middle <
                        Right Index >
                        Left Index V
                        Right Middle ^
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        dumps abstractly represent the song with arrows

                        post-dumps abstractly represent the existential nihilism that the song invokes in the listener with negative space, evoking the ephemeral nature of the mind - the journey of stepmania begins in hope yet soon becomes corroded into a dialectic of futility, leaving only a sense of dread and the unlikelihood of a new synthesis

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                        • meno_rocks123
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2324

                          #42
                          Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                          I use
                          left index v
                          left middle <
                          right index ^
                          right middle >

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                          • Tommy5001
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 40

                            #43
                            Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                            How are you suppose to paly spread with a laptop
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                            • Gadwin
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 5

                              #44
                              Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                              Originally posted by meno_rocks123
                              3 fingered two hand: This is the hand position that mostly average/pretty good players use.
                              once again, wrong. Who the hell uses two hands and doesn't use four fingers?
                              Read post because I did. And its quite affective too.
                              right middle <
                              left middle v ^
                              right ring >

                              And you spread on the laptop using the num keys. thats what my friend did.

                              And I don't understand how people can play with their right index ^ and right middle >. It seems like that would tire out the hand so much because of the position it is in.
                              Last edited by Gadwin; 03-10-2007, 01:01 PM.

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                              • Billydude
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 880

                                #45
                                Re: FFR Hand Postitions Guide

                                Originally posted by Tommy5001
                                How are you suppose to paly spread with a laptop
                                I guess you would just have to use mapping keys. =/

                                Btw I'm editing right now.

                                Originally posted by Chrissi
                                If you eat a pizza it does not give you the urge to fly a kite.
                                Originally posted by beaner692
                                What if Billy talked to her? hes irrisistable

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