[Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

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  • og4lif
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2007
    • 38

    #1

    [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

    Hello. I'm having difficulties solving this particular Exponential Equation and according to my understanding it involves logarithms.

    3^2x - 6(3^x) + 9 = 0

    I'm not interested in the answer. I already know that the answer is one but I am having difficulties manipulating this equation. I would really appreciate it if someone could show me what I should do because I have lots of homework with similar questions.

    Below I have provided some work I attempted on this question.

    3^2x - 6(3^x) + 9

    log 3^2x - [log 6 + log 3^x] = - log 9

    2x log 3 - log 3^x = log 6 - log 9

    x[log 3^2 - log 3] = log 6/9

    Eventually, If i continue I end up with the wrong answer.
  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
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    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #2
    Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

    I edited your thread title to follow the explicit thread titling requirements in the rules. That's your one warning to remember to follow directions.

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    • flipsta_lombax
      Lombax Connoisseur
      • May 2006
      • 2556

      #3
      Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

      Originally posted by og4lif
      Hello. I'm having difficulties solving this particular Exponential Equation and according to my understanding it involves logarithms.

      3^2x - 6(3^x) + 9 = 0

      I'm not interested in the answer. I already know that the answer is one but I am having difficulties manipulating this equation. I would really appreciate it if someone could show me what I should do because I have lots of homework with similar questions.

      Below I have provided some work I attempted on this question.

      3^2x - 6(3^x) + 9

      log 3^2x - [log 6 + log 3^x] = - log 9

      2x log 3 - log 3^x = log 6 - log 9

      x[log 3^2 - log 3] = log 6/9

      Eventually, If i continue I end up with the wrong answer.
      The way I see it:
      You may have brought your x down wrong?

      Instead of : log 3^2x - [log 6 + log 3^x] = - log 9

      I see it as : 2x log 3 - 6x log 3 = - log 9
      -4x log 3 = - log 9
      x = - log 9 / - 4 log 3


      I am not quite sure, because we are doing exponential equations as well, but they are quite different from this.
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      • Jtehanonymous
        Hunger Games Hunty
        • Jan 2007
        • 3770

        #4
        Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

        Wait I'm sorry, nevermind. -.- Scratch everything I just said..
        Last edited by Jtehanonymous; 01-19-2008, 09:15 PM.

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        • og4lif
          FFR Player
          • Jul 2007
          • 38

          #5
          Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

          Thanks a lot buddy I got it. Let me post my work in a second for you to look over

          2x log 3 - log 3^6x = -log 9

          2x log 3 - 6xlog 3 = - log 9

          2x (log 3 - 3log 3) = -log 9

          2x (log 3/9) = - log 9

          2x = - log 9 / log 1/3

          2x = 2

          x = 1 =) Thanks for the help flipsta_lombax and Jtehanonymous.
          Last edited by og4lif; 01-19-2008, 09:16 PM.

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          • flipsta_lombax
            Lombax Connoisseur
            • May 2006
            • 2556

            #6
            Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

            I don't agree with you jtehanonymous. I just don't see where you need to take the log of 6 when all you need to take the log of is that 3^x.

            Oh btw, my answer:
            x = - log 9 / - 4 log 3
            x = log 9 / 4 log 3
            x = .5


            The logistics seem quite reasonable on my behalf.
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            • Jtehanonymous
              Hunger Games Hunty
              • Jan 2007
              • 3770

              #7
              Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

              Originally posted by flipsta_lombax
              I don't agree with you jtehanonymous. I just don't see where you need to take the log of 6 when all you need to take the log of is that 3^x.

              The logistics seem quite reasonable on my behalf.
              I realized that when I looked over my post again, and that's why I felt stupid and edited it. XD

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              • og4lif
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2007
                • 38

                #8
                Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                .5 doesn't seem to work if i place it back into the equation.

                But yeah thanks again guys. So does this thread get locked up now?

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                • Jtehanonymous
                  Hunger Games Hunty
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3770

                  #9
                  Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                  Originally posted by og4lif
                  2x log 3 - log 3^6x = -log 9

                  2x log 3 - 6xlog 3 = - log 9

                  2x (log 3 - 3log 3) = -log 9

                  2x (log 3/9) = - log 9
                  Wouldn't that part be 2x (Log 3/27) = -log9?

                  I dunno, I thought the 3log3 would make a log 27

                  Edit : 2x (Log 1/9) = -log9

                  2x = -log9/log1/9 (Which equals 1)

                  2x = 1

                  x = 1/2

                  So I agree with flip. XD
                  Last edited by Jtehanonymous; 01-19-2008, 09:25 PM.

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                  • NFD
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4715

                    #10
                    Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                    ...What math level is this? Algebra II? I'm in Accelerated Geometry, I can't figure it out, x.x

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                    • devonin
                      Very Grave Indeed
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10120

                      #11
                      Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                      Yay the successful conclusion of our inaugural thread.

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                      • Master_of_the_Faster
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 255

                        #12
                        Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                        Originally posted by og4lif
                        Hello. I'm having difficulties solving this particular Exponential Equation and according to my understanding it involves logarithms.

                        3^2x - 6(3^x) + 9 = 0
                        I'm a wizard at this. First thing is first.

                        If you look carefully, this question is somewhat different from your average exponential equation question in that it is similar to a quadratic equation.

                        Picture this: instead of 3^x, think of it as x and 3^2x as X^2. Everything in this equation should look like (X^2)-6(x)+9=0
                        If you solve the quadratic properly, you should factor and get (x-3)(x-3)=0

                        Now think of it in terms of the actual equation. You should get factors of
                        ((3^x)-3)((3^x)-3)=0

                        From here, you should solve for (3^x)-3=0 in the usual fashion by the following:
                        1. adding 3 to both sides to make this: (3^x)=3
                        2. do log base 3 on both sides to look like this: Log3(3^x)=Log3(3)
                        3: Your x value should be equal to Log3(3) or 1

                        Always check your answer by plugging it into the original equation.
                        Last edited by Master_of_the_Faster; 03-13-2008, 02:12 PM.

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                        • sumzup
                          (+ (- (/ (* 1 2) 3) 4) 5)
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1398

                          #13
                          Re: [Highschool - Math] Having troubles Solving Exponential Equations

                          Originally posted by devonin
                          Yay the successful conclusion of our inaugural thread.
                          Master of the Faster: Conclusion usually means no bumping 2 months after the fact.

                          Edit: I suppose, though, that adding to the discussion doesn't really do much harm, especially in such a slow moving subforum. Whatever.
                          Last edited by sumzup; 03-18-2008, 07:55 PM. Reason: clarification & rethinking

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