Is veganism wrong?

[virus003]

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Let's say America is the Heaviest Country in the world One Reason is because there isn't enough Vegans nothing wrong with eating Healthy and not wanting to be a fat blob

yeah definitely doesn't have to do with the population



this post really pissed me off

you think that vegans are vegans because they don't want to be fat, you're wrong, that seems like a slim chance why, most people don't like the slaughtering concept, they've researched it, and they found out what they're eating, they don't want that in their body. i will admit it's a pretty disturbing concept, but ehh i eat meat anyways.


second, quit assuming all meat eaters are ****ing fat, honestly, makes you look like such an ass because you think that, besides, going vegan means you don't get the nutrients that meat give you, it's called protein, ya?

i'm going to assume you're one of those foreign assholes from canada and you think you're country is all pretty pretty perfect. countries have their own problems. why don't you blame the fast food chains for even being created instead of the people who eat it, fast food is in fact addicting

edit: haha you live in the us what a funny thing of you to say, how patriotic

[bmah]

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Your post is also very offensive, virus. The obesity rate in Canada is also climbing, and is unfortunately a similar trend (on a slightly lesser scale) to the US. Instead of devising gross generalities, please make a quality retort for once.

edit: Erm, blame fast food chains because you can't help yourself being addicted to them? lol
In which case, I must praise the vegetarians for having self-control in that respect.

[DossarLX ODI]

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The only "wrong" thing would be making those slaughtered animals go to waste. Not eating meat doesn't prevent animals from being killed - it even happens in the wild all the time.

You can eat what you want, but if you're at a restaurant and offered some meat, it would be rather disrespectful to just deny it entirely just so you can be consistent and worry about sticking with a no-meat policy. I myself don't eat that much meat; in my view, being a vegan is like saying "oh I will quit this forever and never come back to it". Well congratulations, now you constantly have to worry about it since if you do want to come back to it or there is a situation where it comes again, you'll have to consider your oath. WELP.

[bmah]

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You can eat what you want, but if you're at a restaurant and offered some meat, it would be rather disrespectful to just deny it entirely just so you can be consistent and worry about sticking with a no-meat policy.

This is Anthony Bourdain's reasoning as to why he hates vegetarians lol. When it comes to travelling though, I think this is quite important, however.

[vro]

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Let's say America is the Heaviest Country in the world One Reason is because there isn't enough Vegans nothing wrong with eating Healthy and not wanting to be a fat blob

See, this is what I mean. If you're vegan, fine, but what gives you the right to say something stupid like this? Not including the reference to foreigners, I'm gonna have to pretty much agree with virus. Eating meat doesn't make you fat; meat gives you protein. What makes you fat? Candy, Cake, Soda, Ice Cream, all the other popular shit in America that tons of people love to eat because, dare I say it, it tastes good. Like I said, if you're vegan, then good for you, its your choice, but quit acting like you are higher in society because of it, because you're not.

[Crashfan3]

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I can't wrap my mind around how anyone could think veganism is "wrong". That doesn't even make sense.

I could argue that it's unhealthy, but it IS possible to get your protein from non-animal sources so that's not entirely true either.

So honestly my two cents is that I'd have to support anyone who is vegetarian/vegan. It's not my personal life choice because I can't go a week without sweet, sweet bacon, but I respect those who choose to shun the power of bacon.

[Syhto]

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ok, dossar, who is it that needs the respect? er, I guess since this animal is dead I'm 'disrespecting' it because I'm not using it to its full potential by eating it, because it died for me. OK, the animal is dead, you're right. The animal has no sense of needing respect and it never did. It had no say, no choice, and likely no idea. How do you know that cow on your plate didn't want to be cremated? What if on his will he wrote, "w/e you do please just don't eat me!!!" ... Disrespect, give me a break.

If you're vegan and you're doing it for spiritual/health purposes, you're already respecting everything out there. You respect everything because you stay true to your center, rather than make up excuses because you want to indulge.

And giggles, yeah. But if you see at the beginning of my post I said vegans usually choose to eat organic food. And by organic I mean organic as in no harmful chemicals (pesticides etc), GMOs, modified genetics, you know. That has nothing to do with their health benefits, rather another slightly separate matter of principle I find many health conscious vegan types have. That part was coinciding with the 'fad' term... my wording just isn't that specific.

and vro, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link~

[~kitty~]

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Eating meat is affordable and is easier to gain access to.

[DossarLX ODI]

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Syhto, animals in the wild don't want to be eaten but still get eaten, so I'm not sure where you're trying to get at. Although if you decide to eat it or not, that's your prerogative.

I definitely do support improved conditions of factories though. I think that vegans might have some heat because it's more expensive when you take meat out of your diet (and meat is a food group, haha).

[G.S.M]

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I think most vegans are absolutely ridiculous.

I myself am very healthy and fit (not athlete fit) and I honestly don't see the point of this... I really don't. I eat all kinds of bad food/good food and still find that balance to stay fit and healthy... I find it pointless to go full vegan.

I do agree on not torturing animals though, which is one of the reasons people will go vegan, I assume. A quick death is best for an animal. Why should we throw away what Humans have done since the beginning of Humanity? I find it silly.

also for some reason whenever I think of PETA I think of KKK. I don't know why lol

ps I hate PETA

[supermousie]

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I don't actually mind vegans, but those who push their ideas onto others in an attempt to 'convert' them just really ticks me off. Torturing animals is a big no-no in my book, as is animal rights activist groups. I also think living a vegan lifestyle is inconvenient, expensive, and involves lots of going walkabout in the supermarket looking for vegan products. Hell, earlier today I found some vegan shampoo and I do quote: "No CFCs, SLS, petrochemicals... Bottle derived from corn... Not tested on animals... Vegan friendly... $23.95". I could see from the amount the store stocked, they maybe sold one bottle a MONTH.

@Giggles: I'll break convention next time, ok?
@G.S.M: sig'd.

[xXAll-ProXx]

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What's vaginasim?

[infinity.]

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The only "wrong" thing would be making those slaughtered animals go to waste. Not eating meat doesn't prevent animals from being killed - it even happens in the wild all the time.

You can eat what you want, but if you're at a restaurant and offered some meat, it would be rather disrespectful to just deny it entirely just so you can be consistent and worry about sticking with a no-meat policy. I myself don't eat that much meat; in my view, being a vegan is like saying "oh I will quit this forever and never come back to it". Well congratulations, now you constantly have to worry about it since if you do want to come back to it or there is a situation where it comes again, you'll have to consider your oath. WELP.

pre-requisite: i'm a vegetarian (leaning vegan) of 8 years.

do you know how overused this claim is? before you argue, please know what you're talking about.

animals are slaughtered for the demand of the population. if there were more members who abstained from the practice, what would happen to meat production? obviously, it would decrease.

as for other points, being a vegetarian doesn't help with weight or fitness issues, because one can still eat processed junk and blank starches as much as they want. i can testify for the loss of nutrients and vitamins, too. i have ridiculously levels of protein and iron, because my diet doesn't provide these, and the supplements i take can't fully replace the more natural sources.

there's a lot more to type. if anyone has questions, just ask.

[~kitty~]

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pre-requisite: i'm a vegetarian (leaning vegan) of 8 years.

do you know how overused this claim is? before you argue, please know what you're talking about.

animals are slaughtered for the demand of the population. if there were more members who abstained from the practice, what would happen to meat production? obviously, it would decrease.

as for other points, being a vegetarian doesn't help with weight or fitness issues, because one can still eat processed junk and blank starches as much as they want. i can testify for the loss of nutrients and vitamins, too. i have ridiculously levels of protein and iron, because my diet doesn't provide these, and the supplements i take can't fully replace the more natural sources.

there's a lot more to type. if anyone has questions, just ask.

Even if people were willing to stop eating meat as much, they would still have to eat a fairly large amount of it in their diet due to costs of other foods. Meat is inexpensive. If I had the choice, I would eat more fruits and I suppose more greens. However, I don't buy my food, and whenever I ask for such things, they're like $3.00 for one snack's worth when $3.00 can buy two meals of meat for a family of 4. My numbers may not be completely accurate, but they do reflect how much choice we really have in what we eat.

[Syhto]

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I'm not sure where you're trying to get at.

figured as much

the words are still there if you want to take another whack at it. Sometimes you have to do more than just read the words. Helps to think!! I'm just speaking from experience here and trying to perhaps lay down some thoughts that people hear less often. I don't want to do anything but make you think.

Everyone comes to these conclusions like "wrong" or "stupid" or "pointless", I'm just saying grow up. It isn't that black and white. If you cared, you'd research it and be involved, since you don't, you make haphazard judgments. No no, vegans could never have any depth, vegans are just assholes that want to criticize my meat-eating!!! Well this is NATURE bitches!!!!!

I'm pretty sure they thought harder and longer about switching to veganism than you ever did about eating what your mother puts on your plate.

people be whack