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  • Sweet_Feet
    Washed Up
    • Oct 2005
    • 1934

    #1

    Pi is Wrong?

    Thought this was interesting.



    edit: You can read the entire Tau Manifesto here if you care enough.
    Last edited by Sweet_Feet; 03-14-2011, 01:00 PM.
  • Xx{Midnight}xX
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 8548

    #2
    Re: Pi is Wrong?

    I was entertained.

    And I hate math.

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    • HoneyMelonCalibrator
      Arrow Theory™
      • Feb 2009
      • 905

      #3
      Re: Pi is Wrong?

      "I've got Pi here and I've got Pi there... I'm Pi winning"

      lol'd
      Originally posted by ?
      祇園精舎の鐘の聲、
      諸行無常の響あり。
      娑羅雙樹の花の色、
      盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。
      おごれる人も久しからず、
      唯春の夜の夢のごとし。
      たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、
      偏に風の前の塵に同じ。

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      • remedy1502
        remederpin
        • Feb 2007
        • 4884

        #4
        Re: Pi is Wrong?

        I love Vi Hart's videos lmfao. That was pretty cool.

        I like this one lmfao


        she's so amusing and intelligent it's awesome

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        • Reincarnate
          x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
          • Nov 2010
          • 6332

          #5
          Re: Pi is Wrong?

          This chick is retarded as shit.

          "WAH WAH the unit circle is 2pi why not just pi WAH WAH"

          The ratio of circumference to radius is 2*pi. A radian is just a way of asking how many radius lengths can be wrapped around a circle. When we're talking about pi radians, for instance, that means we're taking a pi number of radius-lengths and going around the circle. It'll get us exactly halfway.

          If you replace it with this tau shit to make a unit circle equal to 1 tau or 2*pi, that means that in other scenarios we'd have to replace pi with tau/2. We COULD replace the definition of a radian in terms of diameter lengths to say "it takes pi radians to go around the circle" but then this screws up the way countless other applications are handled where radians are concerned. She says a radius is the most fundamental thing about a circle without realizing that the radius is where radians are DERIVED FROM lmfao (a radian is an arcsweep from a radius, defined in terms of the radius). I could just as easily say that this aspect of the radius is "fundamental" in favor of 2pi unit circles.

          It'd be like me saying that we should make pi easier to handle by just counting in base pi. Instead of calling pi 3.14159... we could just call it 10 because 1*pi^1 + 0*pi^0 = pi^0. But this would make our normal number system look totally disgusting otherwise (4 would require an infinite number of digits to represent).

          In other words, if you make one thing convenient, you usually lose convenience elsewhere. You can't have it both ways. Unit circle's fine as is. You screw up a lot more than you solve with the tau system. Trig is ugly no matter how you approach it. Previously-convenient things become ugly and previously-ugly things become convenient.
          Last edited by Reincarnate; 03-14-2011, 12:07 PM.

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          • Stewie7Griffin
            FFR Veteran
            • Jun 2006
            • 191

            #6
            Re: Pi is Wrong?

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            Could've swore I FC'd Thrash, but according to level stats it says I have 1 miss....

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            • Hakulyte
              the Haku
              • Jul 2005
              • 4539

              #7
              Re: Pi is Wrong?

              Originally posted by Sweet_Feet
              Pi is Wrong?
              More like Tau is an alternative to do the same thing + what Rubix said.

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              • Sweet_Feet
                Washed Up
                • Oct 2005
                • 1934

                #8
                Re: Pi is Wrong?

                Originally posted by remedy1502
                I like this one lmfao
                That was awesome

                "You can do this with triangles, stars, and don't forget to embellish, elephants, snakes.. I choose Abraham Lincoln" I ****ing died.

                Chick is retarded but whatevs, I like it.

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                • aperson
                  FFR Hall of Fame
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3431

                  #9
                  Re: Pi is Wrong?

                  We use 2*pi because of how we construct the unit circle from the expansion of the complex exponential e^(ix) into its sin and cos parts. The even-ness of cos and odd-ness of sin don't make near as much sense if you use that stupid tau shit instead of pi.

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                  • rushyrulz
                    Digital Dancing!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 12985

                    #10
                    Re: Pi is Wrong?

                    I hate math.
                    especially trig


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                    • jugglinguy
                      Use me as a porta-potty
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 4319

                      #11
                      Re: Pi is Wrong?

                      <3 Vi Hart. I'm not going to pretend I know which way would be more convenient overall, but I like the way she presented it.
                      Originally posted by Jem
                      Jem is my name. No one else is the same!

                      You're Aja Leith of the Holograms! You're very exotic, intelligent and sophisticated.

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                      • supermousie
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1074

                        #12
                        Re: Pi is Wrong?

                        She's going to prove it's possible to divide by effing zero next...
                        Originally posted by aperson
                        yolo

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                        • Reincarnate
                          x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6332

                          #13
                          Re: Pi is Wrong?

                          Don't care what y'all say. Mathematically-literate peeps know she's retarded.

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                          • AsphyxZero
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1823

                            #14
                            Re: Pi is Wrong?

                            Who cares, if I find a girl like her in college I am set for life.

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                            • smartdude1212
                              2 is poo
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 6687

                              #15
                              Re: Pi is Wrong?

                              Her grammar sucks.

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