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  • SUSUGAM
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 69
    #1

    Another Religion Thread... Cause its fun.

    Ok... two questions for christianity. Just looking for some honest opinions / bible mumbo gumbo


    1) If those who do not beleive that christ is the savior, or rather do not beleive in god at all go to hell... does this mean all people before Jesus was alive got automatic passes to hell?

    If you said this is explained because jesus was forgiving them with his death... then...

    2) After his death... if a person is never exposed to christian beleifs... does he also automatically go to hell? Because he certainly wouldnt make up the religion on his own accord...

    (People raised in non-christian comunities, who may never leave them)

    So in turn... is most everyones religion not simply which religion is bestowed upon them at a young age and merely brainwashed to become fact/truth in their eyes? Religion = tradition? Or is a repeatedly re-translated the books the best foundation for a persons style of living and beleif system...

    I don't know.

    But I'd like to.


    Edit: Oh yeah... another note... eternity of suffering and misery in exchange for 60-80 years of ignorance? DO you see any structural flaw here? Sigh. Re-analyze.
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    • fusi0n
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2003
      • 2158
      #2
      you aren't going to find the answer in the flashflashrevolution forums.

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        • SUSUGAM
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2003
          • 69
          #3
          But i can try!!!!!!

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            • fusi0n
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2003
              • 2158
              #4
              you're right

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                • SUSUGAM
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 69
                  #5
                  Ok ok... copy and paste time!!! whats a major christian site?!?!

                  ;D

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                    • VxDx
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2003
                      • 1871
                      #6
                      Re: Another Religion Thread... Cause its fun.

                      Originally posted by SUSUGAM
                      1) If those who do not beleive that christ is the savior, or rather do not beleive in god at all go to hell... does this mean all people before Jesus was alive got automatic passes to hell?

                      If you said this is explained because jesus was forgiving them with his death... then...

                      2) After his death... if a person is never exposed to christian beleifs... does he also automatically go to hell? Because he certainly wouldnt make up the religion on his own accord...

                      (People raised in non-christian comunities, who may never leave them)

                      So in turn... is most everyones religion not simply which religion is bestowed upon them at a young age and merely brainwashed to become fact/truth in their eyes? Religion = tradition? Or is a repeatedly re-translated the books the best foundation for a persons style of living and beleif system...

                      I don't know.

                      But I'd like to.
                      1) Jesus's death allowed them to enter heaven.
                      2) No.
                      2b) People often change their religion during the course of their life.

                      the bible is a guide. where, besides its teachings, would morality be taught?

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                        • SUSUGAM
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 69
                          #7
                          People do change... but MANY don't, and NO isnt a very good answer to 2... sigh, care to explain?

                          What happens? You are reborn witha new chance to have christianity brought upon you? Or maybe you are put in a room with a bible and a playboy... and if you pick the wrong one, you are banished.

                          heh.

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                            • VxDx
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2003
                              • 1871
                              #8
                              you don't have to be christian to go to heaven. god is compassionate.

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                                • SUSUGAM
                                  FFR Player
                                  • Sep 2003
                                  • 69
                                  #9
                                  Hmm... thats not what Catholic's are telling me...

                                  And also... people made the bible... and people also made morality... neither just appeared. Morality existed WAY before the bible.

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                                    • VxDx
                                      FFR Player
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 1871
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by SUSUGAM
                                      And also... people made the bible... and people also made morality... neither just appeared. Morality existed WAY before the bible.
                                      what's your point? people wrote the bible, but they didn't invent the stories.

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                                        • GuidoHunter
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 7371
                                          #11
                                          When it comes to religion, most of us are instilled with the fundamental knowledge as young children, and the church-going after that is supposed to bolster your beliefs and have you accept it yourself.

                                          When we're very young, we have naive beliefs that we follow because we are supposed to. The real test of faith is whether or not you still follow those beliefs when you get old enough to really think about it. Therefore, there really isn't any "brainwashing" involved, but rather laying the foundation.

                                          Regarding the pre-Christ people, they just had a brief respite in Purgatory until He died (unless they lived a life meritorious of hell).

                                          Regarding the group in your number 2, I can say Southern Baptists would answer a resounding "YES", but I like to believe in a more merciful result that would probably include Purgatory. I'll have to check the Catechism of the Catholic Church for a definite answer and get back on that.

                                          --Guido

                                          http://andy.mikee385.com/

                                          Originally posted by Grandiagod
                                          Originally posted by Grandiagod
                                          She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                                          Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                                            • GuidoHunter
                                              is against custom titles
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 7371
                                              #12
                                              people made the bible
                                              People WROTE the Bible, but they were inspired by God. Therefore, it can be taken as God's word, and nothing short of it.

                                              you don't have to be christian to go to heaven. god is compassionate.
                                              Not according to Jesus, when he said something along the lines of "None shall enter the kingdom of Heaven except through me".

                                              --Guido

                                              http://andy.mikee385.com/

                                              Originally posted by Grandiagod
                                              Originally posted by Grandiagod
                                              She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                                              Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                                                • SUSUGAM
                                                  FFR Player
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 69
                                                  #13
                                                  at least you gave a sensible answer without the usual "im christian im right" ring...

                                                  Also, what about the hell thing... i slapped it in my first post earlier, a lifetime of ignorance payed for by an eternity in hell?... How is this merciful?


                                                  edit - sp

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                                                    • SUSUGAM
                                                      FFR Player
                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 69
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by VxDx
                                                      Originally posted by SUSUGAM
                                                      And also... people made the bible... and people also made morality... neither just appeared. Morality existed WAY before the bible.
                                                      what's your point? people wrote the bible, but they didn't invent the stories.

                                                      The stories did not invent morality... so they are not the only things to teach it.

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                                                        • SUSUGAM
                                                          FFR Player
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 69
                                                          #15
                                                          http://www.religioustolerance.org/purgatory.htm



                                                          Mmmmm, burn those sins from their souls...

                                                          So, if you never know that christianity exists... you must endure the most terrible pain imaginable... YAY MERCY!

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