Government.

[jazzmosis]

First off; Guest, making immature, even if undertone, insults at me isn't appreciated. Saying that I can't count to 1 million is pretty ridiculous - and besides, there was a difference between WW1+2 to the Iraq regime. WW1+2, Germany/Italy/Yugoslavia/Austria (depending on which war) were trying to CONTROL the ENTIRE world, and attempting to do so by brutal force. Saddam in Iraq was not sending armies into neighbouring countries trying to conquer the land. Because if he was, the UN would be all over him. What he was doing was killing his own people and being a menace to the world. So don't compare the two when they don't relate. I have nothing but respect for those who gave their lives in the Wars.

Second off; Spec, Canada has much to worry about in their country, yes, but nothing more than any other country (on average). It's not exactly our citizen's fault our government spends money foolishly (appeasing the French-Canadian jackasses.)

Last off; DracIV, the fact that US sent inspectors in to Iraq (perfectly fine) to find WMD I have nothing against. But when they DIDN'T find any and still sent a wave in, that's what I have a problem with. They make the claim that despite their failure to find any WMDs, that Saddam still has them and will use them. That's just a cover story to go in and "free" the country, governing it as they dictate ("democracy"...) and taking the oil all the while. I'm not doubting the Iraq is better without Saddam, but the fact is America will create Iraq as they see fit, not as Iraq does. It's a total disregard for cultures and lifestyle.
NK still is and was the bigger threat of the two countries, but despite China's call for help, America has done little to appease that problem.

[DracIV]

Inspectors were sent in, but they weren't allowed to inspect. They were only allowed to go to specifically planned buildings. They were only allowed to interview people who had obviously been told what to say. They weren't allowed to inspect. We sent them in with the threat that Saddam would be in major trouble if he kept keeping us out. We sent them in, but he still kept them out, so we followed through. If someone is purposely hiding a specific area from you when you are searching for illegal mass-murder weapons, anyone would be suspicious.

[perfect_fat]

The United States doesn't allow UN weapons inspectors in. What do they have to hide?

[Jam930]

state sovereignty

[perfect_fat]

So they're allowed to do whatever they want but everybody else has to submit to the "whims" of the UN?

[Jam930]

Members of the U.N do, that's why the U.S didnt join the U.N...i think.

[perfect_fat]

The US was one of the first members of the UN, and the United Nations building is in New York City.

[Jam930]

i dont think so...

i looked it up and u were right...i was thinking of the thing they made after WWI before the U.N.

=/ whatever

[perfect_fat]

Yeah, the United States opted out of the League of Nations because the senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles.

Since the United States, the great protector of the world, didn't recognize the treaty of Versailles, they did not help enforce it. Lack of enforcement of the T.O.V. led to WW2.

[jazzmosis]

The treaty of Versailles was also a ridiculously idiotic treaty. Basically, they blamed Germany for the war when it wasn't Germany that started it at all. It was Austria and Italy (and I think Yugoslavia) that began WW1, It was Germany that began WW2 (after the treaty of Versailles).

[Jam930]

i think it was actually Serbia who caused the war. After much serbian propaganda and fanatacism was spead throughout europe, including austria-ruled Bosnia, Serbian "terrorists" killed the ARchduke francis ferdinand of Austria, the heir to the throne and his wife, and then when austria asked permission to investigate within serbia to discover who was responsible, serbia didnt agree to it. Germany said they'd back up austria's decision, with their "blank check" and so austria declared war on serbia after they had failed to reach austria's ultimatum.

i studied all this a couple weeks ago in Modern World History

=D

[hitokiri_diesel]

>_<

Yeah, the United States opted out of the League of Nations because the senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles.

Since the United States, the great protector of the world, didn't recognize the treaty of Versailles, they did not help enforce it. Lack of enforcement of the T.O.V. led to WW2.

PWN3D!!

[DracIV]

Why should we let the UN in? We are officially the strongest country in the world, and we also get an added power because no one can know how powerful we really are. So we do have something to hide: a huge arsenal of weapons and unknowns. Besides, we have the role of protectors of the righteous, so why would we be the opposite?

[User6773]

We have no obligation to let UN inspectors in because the UN did not demand it. The UN passed many resolutions over nearly a decade demanding Iraq reveal its weapons programs, because it was an unstable threatening nation, and they even unanimously passed Resolution 1441, where it calls for military action should Iraq refuse to comply.

The UN is a silly organization anyway.

[perfect_fat]

Re: >_<

Yeah, the United States opted out of the League of Nations because the senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles.

Since the United States, the great protector of the world, didn't recognize the treaty of Versailles, they did not help enforce it. Lack of enforcement of the T.O.V. led to WW2.

PWN3D!!

Moron. I said the US was in the UN and Jam disagreed.

PWN3D!!!!!