Nothing can never exist?

[alainbryden]

I dying thinking, why is there something instead of nothing? Why are we here, why is there a universe?

Anyone else get the feeling zeroed left because he's going through a suicide phase?

[perfect_fat]

That line fits the profile.

[JustJono]

Yes I guess stopping the thinking process is possible. Actually it's a necessary factor when reaching higher states of consciousness.

And I recently glanced and read through a couple chapters of a book called Creation. Scientific facts proving God's existence (well not necessarily God, but a supernatural intelligence.) Apparently, our universe, just like everything else IN the universe, runs off of entropy. This makes the big bang theory impossible. (Actually I'm not sure why, but I remember reading that somewhere; I don't even think it was in the Creation book - which is a very interesting read, by the way.)

[DracIV]

First, a correction of something said earlier: there is no major blackhole at the edge of our galaxy, the edge of our solar system, or in the center (where is the center?) of the universe, but there is one in the center of our galaxy.

Blackholes exist. When a blackhole is eating a star, they are quite easy to see. I have actually seen a blackhole when it was eating a star. However, not all galaxies necessarily have a blackhole in the center.

[alainbryden]

Every point in the universe is the center of the universe. Infinitely large sphere. Think about it. :P

[DracIV]

Not true. Only the true center of a sphere is an equal distance from all the farthest points. Anywhere else only reaches some of them, and few if any are an equal distance.

[alainbryden]

'tis true, the functioning adgective compound being :Infinitely large:

[DracIV]

If you insist, then there is no center of the universe in an infinitely large sphere. There, no center to worry about anymore.

[JustJono]

Almost looks as if our solar system is the center of the universe.

[Omeganitros]

Psh. I bet it isnt. if it is, then I'll be damned, we're special!

[IronMonk]

ok, Once again I must explain things, to understand nothing you have to change how you think, it is a difficult excersize but it is possible. first when most people, (myself included till i started taking philosophy) think of the words "empty" "nothing" the idea of a container that didnt have anything in it comes to mind. now as the universe is concerned, if you are a big-bangist, the edge of the universe their is absolutly nothing, no container, no thing to put in it even. all that their is is behind you, thus when you go past the edge of the universe, you push the universe out a little bit farther. so stop worrying about the edge of the universe.


center of the universe.

simple answer = YOU!

long answer = according to einstine, everything is realitive to your frame of referance, thus if you are travleing very quickly, it is not you that moves, its the universe around you moving. so if you are watching a train moving 100 km/h north, and you see a guy walking at 5km/h south. that guy is moving at 95km/h north, if he looks at you, to him you are movign 95 km/h south.

[ramboman]

black holes exist.. they found numerous ammounts of them , the way you find them is a lens like effect from the light of stars... the gravity of black holes is so immense that it can bend light. so all you need to do is find them... and at the center of every galaxie is a super massive blackhole , which keeps all the stars and gas together. that is just the giest of it...the theory is really extensive

Watching your Discovery Channel too, eh Jello?

[IronMonk]

i used to, but as a wee child my vocabulary became so great most of my friends rarely understood what i was talking about. so i stopped.

[pantsmaster]

all these things are unexplined and can't be explained...one such thing is where do we end up when we die? do we just rot in the ground, or go to heaven? or is thier an anti-existance in which we take no form and have anti-conciousness? As for the universe being created, how could it have a begining? if there was "nothing" then there must have been something to have "everything" happen...another thing is what is beyond "nothing"? Another subject i think about sometimes is, in my opinion, that there can't be time travel at any point in the future. If something happens, it can't be changed.

[peregrine]

I've thought a long time what it would be like to not exist, to reach what the Bhuddists call Nirvana. It's an incredibly hard concept to grasp, you tend to liken it to being asleep, but don't you define your sleep by the time you went to sleep and the time you wake up? How can you define a sleep that you never wake up from? It's one of those brain-hurting concepts.

On a side note: it's been proven that universe could either be ever expanding or expanding to a point then shrinking becuase of gravity pulling it back in. It all depends on the exact speed at which the universe is expanding. And here's an odd thought... wouldn't it be weird if one side of the universe was unbalanced and shrunk whereas the other side kept expanding? That would lead to a very screwy universe. I can picture this sphere just being sucked in and squashed into a line.

ahh... unanswered questions about nothingness and the universe... fun stuff we can only speculate on.