Why do something only to quit ?

[Dave&Wave]

Why play this game if you are only to quit ? Have you ever pondered why you walk , but don't go anywhere ? Why do something that will only prove to be vain . Why ? A question you can always ask yourself . Why kill ? If it will only bring destruction . Why am I writing this ? Good question . Things that are done through self-glory are meaningless to others . So why do it for yourself . Post answers to these questions . This is not for the faint of heart .

[TheRapingDragon]

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(EDIT: rzr - We're in critical thinking, posts like those aren't really appreciated.)

You'd be surprised that such a multi-faceted question such as the one you've asked has a relatively simple answer.

We'll use Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs to explain the answer. Humans do things because they, at base, desire to achieve certain needs. These are as follows:



Playing this (or any other game) would come under Esteem or Self-Actualization. We crave achievement and games help your creativity and problem solving, along with other attributes.

People walk where they need to walk. Those who explore are fulfilling their need to explore and those who simply walk to work each day are still fulfilling their basic needs (to provide money for food / shelter / etc.)

I mean even to go into killing and destruction. Certain humans work under different principles. Different views and desires. These all fall under self-actualization. To a murderer, morality is founded in the blink of a glassed over eye. The rapist finds solace in causing hurt over another. Any single person will find a reason to do things and in the end it either comes down to their basic needs or a deep-seeded psychosis to which they are still warping their basic needs around some principle or fact that they feel is correct (morally or superfluously.

TLDR: We do things because we need to.

[Izzy]

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The end product of playing a game is the same as doing anything else, even if you are never going to pick it up again. You gain memories and possibly satisfaction.

[funmonkey54]

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Short spurts of entertainment is the answer to life.

[Adamaja456]

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we do things to further progress ourselves. we start something, work through it, and then stop and proceed to repeat that with other aspects that surround our lives.

[Dave&Wave]

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Then why do you continue life even if you are going to die?

To die in vain is not a ideal thing to do , life has many choices , most of which will govern you path , the path which you take will affect how you feel about yourself , what will happen to you etc . Now , how does the rest of the previous statement have anything to do with the previous quote , allow me to explain : life is like a roller coster , it can be good , bad , medium etc. , you never know what you're going to get . What if you got bad , what if you got medium , but what if you didn't get anything ...... Nothing ...... Now here's where afterlife and what you believe comes in . I'm a Christian , I believe that life is nothing , but it is used to glorify our creator God . Some believe there is no afterlife . It all depends . But no matter what you believe, wouldn't you want to ride the roller coaster ? Wouldn't you want to uncover life's mysteries .

[QUOTE] The end product of playing a game is the same as doing anything else, even if you are never going to pick it up again. You gain memories and possibly satisfaction.[QUOTE]


Satisfaction is not achieved without purpose . Or can it ? If you apply purpose to everything , and ethics . Then might you have a happy life ? No one can tell . Or can they ? Kindness will help you achieve a more civil life with other people , but if your alone , it is not necessary for there is nothing to be kind too .

Self-esteem plays a big part too , but self-esteem is not needed when you are selfless . You only care about others , which would apply to kindness , you can't be selfless without being kind . If you are not kind , you are not selfless , if you are selfless , you don't need self-esteem cause you are helping and worrying for others . That is to say you can't have self-esteem and be selfless .

[Tater Tot]

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Sometimes we do things just because we can. It doesn't necessarily make it right, but we do it anyways. It may sound crazy, but it's true.

[Vendetta21]

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If principles aren't ethical , they are lusts , desires , thoughts of the human mind .

We don't have a universally accepted system of ethics, and this assumes one. It depends on if you are a utilitarian, a Kantian ethicist, a cultural relativist, a solipsist, or maybe even a narcissistic nihilist how your beliefs guide your understanding of things here.

This seems to be branched off from some religious idea about ethics because every non-religious ethics system I've encountered has been ignorant to lusts. If you are looking for a religious-based sense of purpose just look for it in your religion, and if you are looking for a non-religious sense of purpose just learn to understand yourself.

Also, if you want to be understood better you need to stop speaking in such vague and nonsensical sentences. I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about for the most part.

[phe0nixblade]

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If principles aren't ethical , they are lusts , desires , thoughts of the human mind .

stop , talking , like , this .

[Dave&Wave]

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English rule learned from 1st grade : place commas between words in a series.

[foilman8805]

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Yeah, it doesn't say place punctuation in between two spaces, and nowhere will you find that kind of rule.

[Vendetta21]

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We use more than a portion of our brain, we just only use a portion at a time, and also how much I use of my brain has nothing to do with whether or not what I say is true. You never addressed my points, you just addressed your interpretation of me as trying to come off as intelligent.

I do come off as intelligent, but not because I am trying to signal to people that I'm smarter than them, but rather because often times the content of the argument requires taking things to an higher level to get an accurate truth that represents reality. The fundamental issues here seem to be self-actualization and ethics, and maybe even on a deeper level the purpose of existence. These questions cannot be answered when one has presuppositions that are contrary to the point they are trying to determine, and I targeted those assumptions.

"Why do something only to quit?" Well this makes latent assumptions about quite a few things. It makes the point that only life-term sustainable things are worth undertaking: only things that we plan to do for the rest of our lives. It makes the latent assumption that things that are temporary are lower on our scale of preferences. It makes a partial claim about the superior nature of permanence over ephemera. It's far too vague to be applicable to anything, and so there is a need to target and clarify fundamentals that the question is trying to get at, and based on the other information, I thought ethics in life and purpose of life were the two issues that were best to target the point being made.

If you take issue with that, take issue with that based on the content of my arguments, but don't make points that only superficially have to do with what I'm trying to say and defeat them because your emulated point has an intended weakness.

Even if I am just trying to signal intelligence and superiority to others any claim I make is still either always true, circumstantially true or false, or always false. And it would demolish that intelligence and superiority if you target those claims and show that I have made an error in my judgments. If you can't understand me either ask for me to clarify, take the effort to understand, or get out of the ring. This is a place for debate.

[Dave&Wave]

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Ok , that sort of was confusing ......

[Magewout]

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Yeah, it doesn't say place punctuation in between two spaces, and nowhere will you find that kind of rule.

Well in the old days, a space before certain characters was recommended, like with ":" (don't know the English word for it). My mom learned it like this in her typing lessons ages ago :P

[devonin]

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Okay, cleaning this up a little bit. Come on people, this is CT, at least pretend you know what that means. Now to business.

Why play this game if you are only to quit ?

Because the act of playing this game is personally enjoyable to me, and provides me with several obvious benefits including improved coordination, mental agility, and exposes me to a lot of music I might never have found on my own.

Have you ever pondered why you walk , but don't go anywhere ?

Walking on its own provides health benefits, though I would suggest that the majority of walking that gets done has an end destination involved. That which doesn't, tends to be for the exercise.

Why do something that will only prove to be vain . Why ?

If you know that you will fail to acheive your goal when you set out to attempt something whose sole purpose is the acheivement of that goal, then you are either being foolish, or suspect that you can learn something that will help you acheive the goal at a later time by making the failed attempt. Sometimes trial and error really is the only way to solve a problem.

A question you can always ask yourself . Why kill ? If it will only bring destruction .

People kill for a whole host of motives. Revenge, Anger, defense, survival. Some are more defensible than others, but I would always pick the destruction of someone who wanted me dead over the destruction of myself.

Why am I writing this ? Good question .

One assumes you'd either explain why you were writing it, or that we could infer that you were writing a series of questions with the intention of either answering them, or asking us to answer them.

Things that are done through self-glory are meaningless to others . So why do it for yourself .

Do you mean things done -for- self glory? I'm not really sure how you can do anything through the mechinism of self-glory except for, well, self-aggrandizement. Assuming you mean that things done for self-glory are meaningless to others, I'd suggest that if someone were to cure cancer for the sole purpose of becoming rich, famous and loved as a hero, that their work would still be pretty meaningful for an awful lot of people.

Doing meaningless things is meaningless no matter what your motive. Doing meaninful things is meaningful no matter what your motive.

Post answers to these questions . This is not for the faint of heart .

I have! I'm not! And yes, stop putting extraneous spaces before each of your punctuation marks. They don't belong there.