Underwater Colonization = Win

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  • flamingspinach
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2006
    • 270

    #31
    Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

    Sorry, I felt like I had to say something: first of all, lemmings do not jump off of cliffs in order to reduce their population - read [[Lemmings]]. Second, it seems to me that the desire to expand constantly is a societal and cultural disease. Has it not occurred to anyone that unmitigated growth is going to destroy us? Also, the solution is pretty simple.

    A pretty basic rule of ecology is: as a population's food supply increases, the population grows in numbers. Conversely, if a population's numbers grow, then its food supply must have increased. The only solution to overpopulation is to stop producing so much food. Our agricultural industries are taxed to the limit, and we're always trying to find more and more ways to suck nourishment out of the earth - and this only increases our numbers! Some people say that we're human, we can restrain ourselves from reproducing - unfortunately the mob psychology does not make choices as clear as that of the individual, and our societal behaviours as a whole can usually be modeled pretty accurately by those of animal populations.

    The argument that as more and more countries join the ranks of the first world, their population expansion will decrease, is rather baseless since the reason that they are first world countries in the first place is their dependence on the economies of the rest of the world. There's no way that prices in the US could be so low, for example, were not a large portion of our products being imported from places where labor and materials are cheap - i.e. third world countries. Therefore the whole world is not going to just convert into one big first-world-country paradise - in fact, the gap between the rich and the poor is always growing o_O

    I think it's time we thought about decreasing our population instead of finding new places to expand to.

    -fs

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    • MrGiggles
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 2846

      #32
      Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

      Is there enough land already here to make that many man-made islands?

      EDIT: I don't have any clue how accurate this is, but I have heard from various professors that America alone could feed the whole world on it's produce alone. I want to call bull**** on that, but I'm not sure.

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      • flamingspinach
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2006
        • 270

        #33
        Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

        America can feed the world with a small percentage of its military budget, a statistic which is often quoted but which I don't know from where originates. However, people don't eat money - in any case America is already sort of feeding the world, since it is the top dog in the economic ladder, and almost everything is under the employ, directly or indirectly, of first-world countries. It is certainly true that America consumes a vastly disproportionate quantity of materials compared to other countries.

        -fs

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        • Reach
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2003
          • 7471

          #34
          Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

          "The argument that as more and more countries join the ranks of the first world, their population expansion will decrease, is rather baseless"

          Not really, statistics will show you outside of immigration the states population isn't growing much at all. Now then, as for what else you said, this is true. However, you are forgetting something. Indeed, as the gap grows between rich and poor, they eventually develop regardless. Sure, they are not as developed, but this has nothing to do with population growth. Population grows rapidly during critical development stages! We've been developing for thousands of years. Guess when all the major growth happened? Take a stab at it. This happens (generally) because technology is exceeding the needs and cultural lifestyle of the people...aka, birth rate greatly exceeds death rate.

          But yes, regardless population will continue to grow even in a perfectly developed world. But not nearly as fast as it is, which is my point entirely, since China (quickly developing!), India (quickly developing!), and some african countries I can't name off the top of my head right now account for most of the worlds overpopulation o_O Projections show in as little as fifty years indias population could nearly double. But around that time is when they will finish development, and their population will plateau.
          Last edited by Reach; 03-20-2006, 05:46 PM.

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          • female
            FFR Veteran
            • Oct 2005
            • 1523

            #35
            Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

            The Venus Project is a non-profit organization that presents a new socio-economic model utilizing science and technology toward social betterment to achieve a sustainable civilization of abundance for all, without exception.

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            • skyrunner06
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2006
              • 154

              #36
              Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

              if we nuked each other 2 death then the water would be poisonious and if we ate the fish we would all figgin die


              ps.. we couldent live on giant boats becouse if we used up all the resources we would have no gas or electricity duh

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              • skyrunner06
                FFR Player
                • Jan 2006
                • 154

                #37
                Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                and we couldent live on man made islands because if we nuked everybody or we used up all the resources then there would be eather a cloud of death gas (from the nukes) and acid like rain that would kill us all and if we used up all the resources then we would have no food

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                • skyrunner06
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 154

                  #38
                  Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                  and regarding the poor and rich thing

                  like with animals if it came down to surviving the weaker people would get weeded out i have gone ahead and comprised a list of who will die first


                  1 lighter skinned people like jews and whites and russians r next

                  2 then indians
                  3 then usually the blacks would go
                  4 and finnaly there would be no more life on earth except for a few hundred people that have survived buy reproducing into a super gene that would be able 2 suvive everything


                  its called natural selection

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                  • metsfan001
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 250

                    #39
                    Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                    Actually, those with less melanin would survive better in conditions where there isn't much sunlight, like the Arctic.

                    . . . Wait, why am I responding to this dumbass?

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                    • skyrunner06
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 154

                      #40
                      Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                      no ur wrong the nuclear fallout will depleat the ozone and we would be burned

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                      • metsfan001
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 250

                        #41
                        Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                        Nobody could survive for very long without an ozone layer. Nobody.

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                        • spearcm
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8

                          #42
                          Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                          yah he's right

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                          • mattyohh
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 349

                            #43
                            Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                            blow up india.. there's alot of people there that would help bring down the population count
                            Originally posted by FishFishRevolution
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                            • Omeganitros
                              auauauau
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 8897

                              #44
                              Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                              Blowing up people is not a very humane solution.

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                              • mattyohh
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 349

                                #45
                                Re: Underwater Colonization = Win

                                But this could depend on the survival of the human race

                                and at times humans arn't very humane....
                                Originally posted by FishFishRevolution
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