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[Lupin_the_3rd]

math is not important past algebra II i said...how many times will you wonder what the cosine is of a ferris wheel 2 feet off the ground

If your a designer or an architect... all math is important in just about every job. I dare you to find one job that doesn't involve math. A lot only go up to the algebra 1 or 2 level, but quite a few still do go past, to calc and such.

sorry brain, i meant to specify as helpful towards actual life...

there are far more important things than knowing how to build a roof

[Dark_Mind]

And where woud we be without roofs? *cough*DUMBASS*cough*

[Brainmaster07]

:P

But why are we talking about math? Were supposed to be bashing history.

[makaveli121212]

well lupin if you read my previous post you would see that i said that math helps us learn to apply different things we have learned to solve a problem...in many cases in math problems you have to search back to things previously learned to solve them...thats what it teaches you...in everyday life you have problems, the way to solve these problems is to gather the tools you have learned throughout life and apply them to solve the problem

[Lupin_the_3rd]

And where woud we be without roofs? *cough*DUMBASS*cough*

durrrr we didn't have roofs for thousands of years and i'm PRETTY sure we haven't died out yet....shelter is a recent commodity which promotes warmth. Because of our being spoiled with warmth, we have become dependant and now have like zero fortitude. Roofs were just as bad as they were good to our race.

and makaveli, i know where you are coming from, but the actual application of the math problems past alg. II would be quite useless for real life(and not being a carpenter, you idiots). Knowing trigonometry and calculus doesn't make you a better person, nor does promote common sense.....a small amount of logic is all that you would gain from Trig and calc, which is why math past algebra II does not provide THAT much more knowledge

[Omeganitros]

School may or may not be flawed. What find lacking in it is the teaching of wisdom. They could study deeper into philosphers or something. However, teaching wisdom may or may not be like teaching moral values, which schools are not exactly entitled to do.

[makaveli121212]

calc is used all the time in the stock market to show the rate of change of a companies stock or the rate of change of the rate of change of the companies stock

[Lupin_the_3rd]

stock market=life value? no
i should have been more specific- i mean like....character building and useful skills needed for life

oh, and like it or not, school is most definitely flawed....it's like one of the more atrocious things we have created--free thought and individualism is "encouraged" by schools, while ironically it is surpressed(usg?)

school should be taught so that we gain stuff we need for our life, not just jobs...

its been said, "all i ever needed to learn, i learned in kindergarten"
share, say sorry when you hurt somebody, and play nice together.

think about what our world would be like world rulers abided by these rules

[Brainmaster07]

You can't live with lifeskills alone and you can't live with education alone. Math is required to get through the day, as is common sense.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

You can't live with lifeskills alone and you can't live with education alone. Math is required to get through the day, as is common sense.

how many times do you calculate the cosine of the door stopper? or maybe the corner of your house?

this is why i said math up to alg II

[Brainmaster07]

If you can't pay your tax's or manage your income you'll be in a helluva trouble :P. Not to mention keeping your job, or getting a new one, good luck getting anything above minimum wage with an alg 2 education.

Of course alg 2 is fine for now, but it won't later.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

dude i am NOT. I repeat, i am NOT, as in I AM NOT, stating for life what you're thinking of. Perhaps you haven't matured enough to the point where life of which you speak of doesn't mean shit. You will only be here another 70 years, big deal. I'm talking about education to be received by future dwellers of earth. We need a school that teaches people to worry about current events and individualism. We need schools to promote how to act (no i dont mean manners) in the face of certain difficulties in the future. We need schools that would help promote things more important in life like keeping in peace with yourself, neighbours, and strangers...i'm doing a horrible job of explaining this, as i can't think of specific examples, but schools in the far east are doing what i suggested as we speak. I guess taxes are more important than enjoying life though.

and when you say alg II is fine for now, what do you mean by that? maybe in your future you will need skills to create an automobile to pollute the planet, or make a weapon of destruction to kill inhabitants of countries you don't like....

[Brainmaster07]

and when you say alg II is fine for now, what do you mean by that? maybe in your future you will need skills to create an automobile to pollute the planet, or make a weapon of destruction to kill inhabitants of countries you don't like....

As I said, right now, today, you can get through life with alg 2, but later, you will need a greater education to get through life. And is it just me, or did you just contridict yourself?:

math is not important past algebra II i said...how many times will you wonder what the cosine is of a ferris wheel 2 feet off the ground

And for the rest of your point, I never said life skills weren't important, in fact, look at my last post, I just said they were necessary to get through life. I'm not argueing with that, just that you need high math skills to get through life.

[Lupin_the_3rd]

we're each thinking a way of life is better, and i respect your opinion.

I think it is more important to live your life to the fullest, while disregarding an importance of wealth. make peace with all human beings though they may not be peaceful with you. attempt to achieve happiness through giving and love. have your progeny to live in a better world.

my interpretation of what you think is important:
get smart, get rich, get fancy cars and dress well. Get a wife and treat her well. You have a nice job and everybody thinks you're all that.

[Brainmaster07]

Sounds good .