NASA, do we really need it?

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Well that all feeds back into why there should be private space research companies to create competition with NASA. Having an unrestricted monopoly removes all need to actually produce solid results, because there's no other choice except to scrap the program entirely.

[Sullyman2007]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Ok dude. The NASA is NOT a monopoly. Actually, NASA is probably one of the poorest branches of the government right now. They dont get any money. Space Exploration isnt exactly the number 1 priority right now, even though it should be..

Look at what happend when John Rockefeller took over the Oil industry. (If you dont know who he was, he was the one person responsible for paving the way for what we know today as Capitalism back in the late 1800's). What im saying is, if we let Space research become a competition, they will all end up loosing in the long run.
If you don't understand, Google "John Rockefeller".

[Sullyman2007]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Nasa is one on the biggest space programs out there only because it buys out it enemy’s and the government makes it impossible for privet companies to do any thing. There was one case were a private company was going to launch a satellite for a private company and it was going to cost them 4mil$ but then Nasa says we will do it for 3mil so the company pays the 3mil but Nasa ends up paying a total of 7mil$ just to launch the thing

So is Nasa really needed?


there that shoul be better

Of course there should be a NASA.
Space is the future. For you and me.
Don't believe me? You will in about 30-40 years.


*Edit* Sorry for the double post.

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Ok dude. The NASA is NOT a monopoly.

What are some other American companies that conduct independant space exploration?

[Kilroy_x]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Look at what happend when John Rockefeller took over the Oil industry. (If you dont know who he was, he was the one person responsible for paving the way for what we know today as Capitalism back in the late 1800's). What im saying is, if we let Space research become a competition, they will all end up loosing in the long run.
If you don't understand, Google "John Rockefeller".

Isaac Newton invented gravity you know.

[og4lif]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Isaac Newton invented gravity you know.

Please do us all a favor and edit your sentence. Newton did not invent gravity. Gravity was never invented by anyone.

[Kilroy_x]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Please do us all a favor and edit your sentence. Newton did not invent gravity. Gravity was never invented by anyone.

Yeah huh. Ben Franklin invented electricity too. Also the world was in black and white before the invention of color in the 1960's, which happened cause of drugs being taken by hippie communists.

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Please do us all a favor and edit your sentence. Newton did not invent gravity. Gravity was never invented by anyone.

Please do us all a favour and see how usage of a comparison to demonstrate the absurdity of a previous statement can be used to great effect around those who can see and understand it.

[Relambrien]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

If you still don't understand, Kilroy is saying "Saying John Rockefeller invented capitalism is like saying Isaac Newton invented gravity."

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Jokes are totally no fun when you have to explain them.

ITT we point out how the useful discussion died ages ago, and ask for a lock.

[Sullyman2007]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Another example of how a perfectly meaningful topic gets shot down because someone says something stupid... D:
Anyways, John Rockefeller did indeed pave the way for capitalism. He bought out the entire Oil industry in the late 1800's, and even broke his bank.

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Another example of how a perfectly meaningful topic gets shot down because someone says something stupid

For certain values of "someone" ...just sayin'

John Rockefeller did indeed pave the way for capitalism

"Capitalism in its early American form, in America, viz the oil industry." That is a very VERY different thing than "Capitalism"

What you basically said was "when the founding fathers invented democracy"

And to address the point it looks as though you were trying to make: Yes, NASA is a monopoly, it is the definition of a monopoly. And in a free market society, monopoly is where everybody loses, because competition demands results, instead of stagnation. If NASA weren't a monopoly and was acting how it has been in the past 20 years, it would no longer be in business.

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

If you'd actually read the thread you decided to bump for no good reason, you'd see that yes, everyone in the discussion is fully aware that NASA is government funded, and that was one of the central facets of the discussion.

In Critical Thinking, you need to read before you post, to make sure that your post actually contributes something new and useful to the discussion, especially when you're bumping something from 12 days ago

[ljw5021]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

Nasa is one on the biggest space programs out there only because it buys out it enemy’s and the government makes it impossible for privet companies to do any thing. There was one case were a private company was going to launch a satellite for a private company and it was going to cost them 4mil$ but then Nasa says we will do it for 3mil so the company pays the 3mil but Nasa ends up paying a total of 7mil$ just to launch the thing

So is Nasa really needed?


there that shoul be better

First, learn to spell and use correct grammar. Secondly, in my opinion we do need NASA. The Earth won't last forever, and without NASA we will be stranded here until the end. And no this is not bias, despite me attending college for Aerospace Engineering.

[devonin]

Re: NASA, do we really need it?

You're answering the question "Do we need NASA" as though it says "Do we need to conduct research and experiments in space" which is not what the OP was asking.

The question is perhaps better parsed as "Do we need NASA as an organization, with a monopoly control over all aeronautical and space research, or would we be better served allowing private companies to function in tandem" since the OP centered the discussion around the fact of their monopoly, and tendency to buy out or otherwise deal with any potential competitors.