e^(i*pi)

[Loverofstories]

*SYSTEM OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!*

[hatakikakashi]

I got all worried when you guys made me think that 1+1 might not equal 2... So I did some research.


I took 1+1 apples then I preceded to count them. There were 2. Then following the scientific method I sent my findings to several different "researchers" They all were able to duplicate my test results, except for my cat Proffesor Kitty who after exhausting study came to the conclusion that there were meow apples.

[sleeplessdragn]

Guys, you have turned a perfectly legit question thread in the CT forum into stupid. BigsleyTheOaf being the source of this stupid by unnecessary flaming.

And my input on BigsleyTheOaf's first post:
It is impossible to measure the amount of understanding needed in order to explain anything. In fact I can just as well casually mention that I don't think you understand enough about math to explain it, because only people who have researched mathematics intensely at the Ph.D level for at least thirty years is even remotely educated enough. On the other hand, it can be said that I think if you have a basic grasp on the concpet of Algebra that you are educated enough to explain it. It is all relative.

Let this thread die now, it has served its purpose.

[blahblah18]

save for the need for more people to call this guy dicktard from now on... and seriously, the "concept" of addition is not one to be just taken for granted. Peano's Axioms are a good start if you're actually interested

[GuidoHunter]

I'm interested, but I could google it if you don't want to post it all.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[bigsleytheoaf]

sigh

Hmm, I've written 2 responses, but they don't seem to want to post. Here's a summary:

1) I go to MIT, and I major in Math. I'm not a Ph.D, but I'm good at it. However, there are many people much better than me and my original post was not intended to be "bragging" although I can see how you could interpret it that way.

2) I was trying to express irritation at people who portray a "casual" knowledge of math because I think that this is a very irritating form of boasting. "Oh man, you know what's so awesome about the Radon-Nikodym Theorem!?!?"

Whatever, it doesn't matter.
You guys jump to alot of conclusions and sure start with the feisty comments really quick-like.

[FlashStinger]

RE: sigh

what street is MIT on?

[bigsleytheoaf]

well

"MIT" is large, but the usual address that people associate with it is 77 Mass. Ave. I live at 70 Amherst Street, Cambridge.

[FlashStinger]

RE: well

ok, can you disprove that this doesn't work

let a=b=1

a=a
a*a=ab
a^2=ab
-ab -ab
a^2 - ab = 0
a(a-b) = 0
/(a-b) /(a-b)
a = 0

Therefore 1= 0, according to the first statement a = b = 1




how about more complex,
Let m = n+1
n+1 = n+1
(n+1)+(n+1) = m(n+1)
(n+1)^2 - m(n+1) = 0
(n+1)(n+1-m) = 0
/(n+1-m) /(n+1-m)

n+1 = 0

???? no matter what n equals, n+1 is always 0, therefore all numbers are pointless, and that degree you will be getting is semi-pointless. Not really. but i like to ask smart mathe people these questions. Let's see if you can fix it.

[FlashStinger]

RE: well

oh, and for such a bright man, I don't recommend giving out my address on a forum. Hackers and such getting your info.... not normally good. If you didn't play ffr, I'd take you for a spin

[talisman]

RE: well

uh.... (n+1) + (n+1) doesn't equal m(n+1), if m is (n+1). That's like saying (n+1)(n+1) = (n+1) + (n+1).

and you can't divide by zero (a-b) in the first one.

[bigsleytheoaf]

re flash stinger - good luck with "getting my info." Does anyone want my IP? What would one do, exactly? All of my important documents are encrypted and backed up on athena.

Word on the street is that hacking is dead.

BTW: MIT's root pwd is public -> You can ssh remotely and use neo to find all a person's information if you have any other bit of their information... Hacking people at MIT isn't hard, it's just not done because it's poor form/immature.

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Actually, someone used the root login to install a fake login screen on public workstations recently and harvested a bunch of email addresses. Too bad they got caught and their asses are getting expelled. *shrug*

-Bigsley

[FlashStinger]

Re: RE: well

uh.... (n+1) + (n+1) doesn't equal m(n+1), if m is (n+1). That's like saying (n+1)(n+1) = (n+1) + (n+1).

and you can't divide by zero (a-b) in the first one.

sorry mis typed....

(n+1)(n+1) = m(n+1)

and yes, that is the response, i divided by 0 in both. Dividing by zero leads to some pretty interesting results, eh? This shows you why it's important to observe rules about domain restrictions, or you can come up with all kinds of mayhem. (i.e. [a-b] and [n+1-m] both equal 0). I'm glad there are some smart people out there. Some people on other forums believed me and had to ask for why it works.

re flash stinger - good luck with "getting my info." Does anyone want my IP? What would one do, exactly? All of my important documents are encrypted and backed up on athena.

Word on the street is that hacking is dead.

BTW: MIT's root pwd is public -> You can ssh remotely and use neo to find all a person's information if you have any other bit of their information... Hacking people at MIT isn't hard, it's just not done because it's poor form/immature.

---

Actually, someone used the root login to install a fake login screen on public workstations recently and harvested a bunch of email addresses. Too bad they got caught and their asses are getting expelled. *shrug*

-Bigsley

Sure most hacking is "dead", but it is still harmful. Just a few weeks ago a few hundred identities were stolen from a college up in California where they got the SS#'s of many people and credit card numbers. With that kinda of stuff, you can cause damage.

FYI, "Hacking" isn't dead. Cracking is on the drop, but most "hacks" are not reported, and are hardly ever harmful. Learn the lingo. Unfortunately, there will always be script kiddies attacking server's and games, just for fun. Hey, I have done it, but thinking that hacking is "dead" is simply stupid.

[bigsleytheoaf]

eh.

I may be stupid, but I'm still not really very worried. To the best of my knowledge, the following are true:

1) The russian mafia probably has all of my identifying information (ssn, credit card #, etc.)

2) I don't really have anything for anyone to steal. I don't have much money and if someone wanted it I would probably give it to them (assuming they had at least a coherent reason). If they want my few hundred dollars to buy a watch or something then that's just dumb.

-Bigsley

[FlashStinger]

true, Hacking is mostly done to small online buisnesses, who eventually fix the problem. So crackers inevitably help the world!!!! not really, but w/e