Extremely Political Speech

[DracIV]

If everyone decided to lay down their weapons and go home, there would be peace. If everyone decided to be environment-friendly, pollution would end. If everyone stopped having too many kids, overpopulation would end. Of course, none of these things will ever happen because people cannot agree on anything, but the point is; if we pulled out of Iraq and dismantled out nuclear weapons, we would be out of Iraq and have no nuclear weapons; then we could focus our funding on education and saving the environment. World peace would not be achieved, but we would have achieved peace.

If everyone decided to lay down their weapons an go home, there would be rampant crime. If everyone decided to be environment-friendly, pollution would not stop as we dont have the means to stop it yet. If everyone stopped having too many kids, the world would still be overpopulated and we wouldnt have war to reduce our numbers since everyone went home. Of course, none of these will ever happen because people can see the foolishness/uselessness of these actions. If we pulled out of Iraw and dismantled our nucler weapons, Iraq would collapse and a new dictator would begin torturing the peoples of that land, all the current tyrants would know that there is no longer anyone who can threaten their power, the US would lose all reputation for being courageous, the attitude of the American people would go into the dumps, all our enemies would see us as weak enough to kill now, all evil people (those who want to commit genocide, etc) will know that there is no one who is going to stop them anymore, and people would pay attention to the fact that no army, not even ours, is big enough to keep everything safe forever. Oh yeah, and you forgot the 5 other campaigns and occupations that are currently draining most of our army.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a good enough reason to vote for Kerry. Bush started a war, ruined our economy, presided over the worst security failure in US history, and racked up the record national deficit, just to name a few of his accomplishments. He also had the lowest Intelligence Quotient of any president in history. Almost anyone is better than Bush.

Bush started a war that everyone agreed on, including Kerry, did NOT ruin the economy- it has been proven that the slump happened during Clinton's term and the economy has been slowly going back up with Bush, presided over the worst security failure in history that would not have occurred if Clinton and others had not cut the legs out from under the CIA by cutting off all ground information checkers- they arent allowed to deal with enemy snitches anymore and that cut off their last ground information collection method, and allowed his buddies to spend way too much, only the final of which should count against him. So what if he has a low IQ? Everyone knows that IQ is inaccurate, and doesn't say enough about how smart someone will be. Almost anyone may be better than Bush, but Kerry sure isn't.

[User6773]

Actually, Bush doesn't have a low IQ. He graduated from Yale. I know most people are going to think "OMG HAX" but just because you're not an eloquent speaker does not make you an idiot.

And remember, John Kerry said that he still would have voted to give President Bush power to go into Iraq, even knowing what we know now. The citizens of Iraq, and everyone of Iraqi descent, should applaud him for this. Saddam Hussein was an evil man, and the people of Iraq and the people of the world are safer now that he is gone.

Also, you cannot simply lay down your arms and walk away when you have pro-Saddam radical terrorists in Iraq eking to reclaim control of the country and turn it into what it once was. The reason we're still there is for the sake of the people in Iraq, not in the US.

[JesusWaffle]

Okay, you guys win.

[talisman]

There are liberal lunatics, there are conservative lunatics, there are moderate lunatics.

Craziness seems to be even distributed amongst society. The writer is fallacious in assuming that everyone in a particular protest believes in one sign held by one protester.

Was the war justified? I have not seen indisputable proof that Iraq was a direct and imminent threat to the United States. Saddam Hussein was a bad person, true, and mistreated his people. Does that give us a right to remove him unilaterally from power?

I say no, others say yes, still others say yes because they feel they have seen such proof, or that such proof does not necessarily have to be indisputable.

[The_Q]

WHOA! I read this thing and I see that I like half of each argument.

"And Jewpin: You ask Don Feder if he has ever been to war, somehow implying that Have you ever lived under the fear and tyrrany of the Saddam regime? If not, how can you possibly speak out against our quest to depose him?

One MAJOR thing everyone here keeps messing up on is the economy. Has no one heard of the economic cycle. The reason it went down during Clinton was it was time to go into the recession. We're pulling up now and will for a while until we peak. We got out of the trough and are heading to the top. Anyone who says that the economy is worse off is a moron. They mustn't have known about this cycle and are comparing peaks to troughs instead of troughs to troughs. In actuallity, our economy has never been better. The President and his decisions have absolutly NOTHING to do with this.

Kerry hasn't really shown us anything yet, so I won't decide. I do strongly disagree with the war and Bush's other recent decissions, but I also remember 911 and his ability to handle that. We have after all overthrown 2 evil regimes and slowed a third as an indirect effect of 911. That's not bad.

I ask anyone against the war: Would you look an Iraqi citizen in the eye and tell him you wish we had never removed that evil man from controlling their country?" (Sorry, dunno how to work the quote stuff) I think that is awesome. Using extremes to move your point works quite well and doesn't really change anything. I do it all the time.

I also think that patriotism is a crime to humanity. So is environmentalism. They prey on innocent children who are sucked into the stupidity of meaningless "moral high ground". Were you not taught as a child to love your country and do anything it asks of you? I was. Were you taught in school that wasting paper is bad and recycling is good? I was. Truth is that morals are not based on logic or economic efficiency. If you use more paper the price of paper goes up, and with that so does the price of trees. That means more loggers will cut stuff out. That's whay you were taught, right? They left something out. If the trees are worth something to the loggers, most likely they'll plant more trees and tend their crop better. For every tree logged 10 are planted. When your country drafts you, it's so it can protect it's good morals. You're supposed to die for those morals. Would you die for something you can't experience?

Oh, I forgot the deficit. What is wrong with the deficit? So he borrowed cash. That LOWERS OUR TAXES. It will raise our kids taxes, but by then, they should handle it (economic growth is approx. 1.5%, and that's fixed for inflation). They're gonna be RICH. If anyone says "My taxes are lower but my kid's will be higher AND I DON'T LIKE THAT." is a blatant lier.

Ok, the speech. He did use stereotypes and what not. I personally don't agree with it. By protesting they are proving the are Pro-American by not only using their rights but keeping Americans alive. It's selfish, but it's true.

Oh, and oil prices would still be a buck 67. When prices go down, more people by more often. Incentives matter.