deductive logic vs inductive logic

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

see, deductive logic might lead you to this conclusion

How so?

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

i enjoy toying with you if you havent noticed

yeah, you like flaming in the CT forum, i get it.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

How so?

you're right, there isnt any logic that validates your statement.

it's a baseless claim.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

broad questions are no less valid, and whether or not something is meaningful is subjective. whether or not you get any practical real world advantage is almost impossible to quantify.

you should narrow the scope of your criticism.

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

Whether or not something uses deductive logic or inductive logic is also subjective and impossible to quantify, so your question is still pointless.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

Whether or not something uses deductive logic or inductive logic is also subjective and impossible to quantify, so your question is still pointless.

how is that subjective?

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

broad questions are no less valid, and whether or not something is meaningful is subjective.

How is this subjective?

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

what is meaningful to one person might not be meaningful to another person

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

what is meaningful to one person might not be meaningful to another person

What is inductive logic to you is not what inductive logic is to me. Also subjective.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

except that's not true

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

It's not true because I redefined what you meant by "inductive logic."

what is meaningful to one person might not be meaningful to another person

This is not true either. You redefined what I meant by "meaningful". I explicitly told you what I meant by meaningful when I wrote my post, something that is a matter of objectivity not subjectivity. And yet you discarded that and used an entirely different meaning, changing my point.

You are not intellectually honest.

[austin4evr]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

I got something meaningful out of the discussion already. "Oftentimes intelligent people will use their intelligence to dodge needing to use it, and stretch their brains with the use of open ended (in this case extremely so) discussion." A discussion can be worth more than its parts much like a piece of art is worth more than the paint put into it. That being said, inductive and deductive reasoning is really the question of the chicken and the egg with fourth dimensional concepts.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

Whether or not something uses deductive logic or inductive logic is also subjective and impossible to quantify, so your question is still pointless.

this is completely false.

[stargroup100]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

this is completely false.

This statement is completely false.

[FoJaR]

Re: deductive logic vs inductive logic

Even if it wasn't a malformed question, ultimately I think it's a meaningless one as well. The foundation of all sciences is inductive reasoning. However, the models we use to understand and use science must utilize deductive reasoning. Why do we care which one has done more? What practical real world advantage can we gain by knowing the answer to this question?

i think the problem here is that you dont understand what you're talking about.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-inductive/

read the first paragraph and then maybe revise your opinion.

scientific models are inductive.

inductive logic is an extension of deductive logic, but once you make an inference, your logic is inductive.

if you're still having trouble, i'll put it this way: inductive reasoning can contain deductions, but it is still inductive reasoning. deductive reasoning cannot contain inferences, or it becomes inductive reasoning.

so really the question is valid as asked, though the "which has done more for humanity" was a little vague. but it was left vague for a reason, because the things that inductive and deductive reasoning have accomplished usually fall into different domains.