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  • IAMTHEEVILBEAN
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2003
    • 3078

    #16
    I think it is infinite. Why would the number 0 exist if it does not have a value?

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    • fusi0n
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2003
      • 2158

      #17
      because it represents having nothing. like having no (or zero) fetuses in your hand.

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      • Squeek
        let it snow~
        • Jan 2004
        • 14444

        #18
        Placeholder? Rounding purposes? It serves a decent purpose in that sense.

        We should all know that we don't exist to debate this anyway. The universe is infinite, the number of living beings is not. And infinite number / any finite number = really small fraction which averages to 0. (It would have been 0.00000e100 anyway)

        So, the average population of the universe is 0. You don't exist.

        ~Squeek

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        • IAMTHEEVILBEAN
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2003
          • 3078

          #19
          Yeah, I just thought of something,

          7 x 0 = 0

          Not infinity

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          • perfect_fat
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2004
            • 161

            #20
            Originally posted by IAMTHEEVILBEAN
            I think it is infinite. Why would the number 0 exist if it does not have a value?
            It was created by Persian mathematicians to represent nothing.

            What's the Roman numeral for 0? Doesn't have one, because whities were too stupid to come up with the idea.

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            • ultimategamer
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2003
              • 127

              #21
              Your statement is both wrong and right, Afro. Heres your logic:

              1/3 = .3333333
              2/3 = .6666666
              3/3 = .9999999

              BUT

              .999999 = 1, so 3/3 = 1

              Whys is .999999 = 1 though? Lemme show you.

              if x = .999999
              then 10x = 9.99999
              if we subtract these two statements we get:
              10x - x = 9.99999 - .99999
              so:
              9x = 9
              x = 1
              1 = .9999999

              Any number divided by itself is = 1, except if those numbers are zero and infinity. It is actually possible to come up with a real number by dividing them using limits, but thats calc stuff and is pretty complicated.

              And yes, when you divide any non-zero non-inifinite number by zero you get infinity. Thats math. That makes sense. Also, EvilBean, your right 10 x 0 = 0. BUT, think of it this way. multiplication is the opposite of division, so doesn't it only make sense that you get 2 different answers? Dividing 3 and 5 will get you a far different answer than if were to multiply 3 and 5.

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              • alainbryden
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                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2003
                • 2873

                #22
                Originally posted by ultimategamer
                And yes, when you divide any non-zero non-inifinite number by zero you get infinity. Thats math.
                No. That's the limit, but any real number divided by zero is NOT infinity.
                ~NEIGH

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                • Jam930
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1069

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ultimategamer
                  Your statement is both wrong and right, Afro. Heres your logic:

                  1/3 = .3333333
                  2/3 = .6666666
                  3/3 = .9999999

                  BUT

                  .999999 = 1, so 3/3 = 1

                  Whys is .999999 = 1 though? Lemme show you.

                  if x = .999999
                  then 10x = 9.99999
                  if we subtract these two statements we get:
                  10x - x = 9.99999 - .99999
                  so:
                  9x = 9
                  x = 1
                  1 = .9999999

                  Any number divided by itself is = 1, except if those numbers are zero and infinity. It is actually possible to come up with a real number by dividing them using limits, but thats calc stuff and is pretty complicated.

                  And yes, when you divide any non-zero non-inifinite number by zero you get infinity. Thats math. That makes sense. Also, EvilBean, your right 10 x 0 = 0. BUT, think of it this way. multiplication is the opposite of division, so doesn't it only make sense that you get 2 different answers? Dividing 3 and 5 will get you a far different answer than if were to multiply 3 and 5.
                  i've seen that before...somewhere.

                  and what i meant about 0 = value or 0 = nothing is like this,

                  in math 0 = value
                  in reality 0 = nothing

                  so if you want some info u think u can use relating to the world, universe etc, you gotta use 0 = nothing, otherwise it's just a theory. like me throwing a baseball at your head it has to go half way, then half way again and again and again and each time it will take X amount of time to travel that extra half way...so the ball would never hit your head. but in reality, it certainly does.
                  -Jamie

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                  • IAMTHEEVILBEAN
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 3078

                    #24
                    I was thinking about this topic and came up with this.

                    0*7 = 0
                    I hope you all know that anything multiplied by zero is zero.

                    Ok....If 0 represents nothing, should't 7*0 = 7. Since you are multiplying 7 by nothing. If 0 was infinity, anything multiplied by it would be infinity.

                    Think about it.
                    You can't have 7 infinity, or 68 infinity (0*7 and 0*68 ), so it just goes to 0, which is infinity.

                    Just a thought.

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                    • Moogy
                      嗚呼
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 10303

                      #25
                      0 * 5 = 0

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                      • alainbryden
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                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2873

                        #26
                        Iamtheevilbean, the X operator is non-ordered, unlike the / operator. So you can't say that 7x0 and 0x7 can result in two different answers. It doesn't work anyways because 3X2 means I have 3 twos, 5X6 means I have 5 groups or six. 0x7 means I have no groups of 7, so 0. 7x0 means I have seven groups of 0, 0+0+0+0+0+0+0 = 0
                        ~NEIGH

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                        • alainbryden
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 2873

                          #27
                          It's interesting that you should say that 0 is infinity however, because in theories where, the universe is circular, if you consider that negative numbers are more of an intangeable concept than positive numbers, you could say that the numbering system, like the universe, is an infinitely large sphere, just two dimentional. If you could travel in a straight line infinitely instantaneously, you would end up in the same spot in the universe, but the logic of the theory. Of course it is an impossible concept, even to conceive how something like that could be conceived. Anyways, following this pattern, the numbering system starts at the indescribable 0 and continues infinitely to the number infinity, which represents zero after traversing the whole number system. It is the other conceptual impossible end that meets the zero to tie the cirle. Of course this is all a BS theory and the universe could never begin to be comprehended, but it's neat.
                          ~NEIGH

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                          • Chrissi
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 3019

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ultimategamer
                            Your statement is both wrong and right, Afro. Heres your logic:

                            1/3 = .3333333
                            2/3 = .6666666
                            3/3 = .9999999

                            BUT

                            .999999 = 1, so 3/3 = 1

                            Whys is .999999 = 1 though? Lemme show you.

                            if x = .999999
                            then 10x = 9.99999
                            if we subtract these two statements we get:
                            10x - x = 9.99999 - .99999
                            so:
                            9x = 9
                            x = 1
                            1 = .9999999

                            Any number divided by itself is = 1, except if those numbers are zero and infinity. It is actually possible to come up with a real number by dividing them using limits, but thats calc stuff and is pretty complicated.

                            And yes, when you divide any non-zero non-inifinite number by zero you get infinity. Thats math. That makes sense. Also, EvilBean, your right 10 x 0 = 0. BUT, think of it this way. multiplication is the opposite of division, so doesn't it only make sense that you get 2 different answers? Dividing 3 and 5 will get you a far different answer than if were to multiply 3 and 5.
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                            • The_Q
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2004
                              • 4391

                              #29
                              0 is nothing, so it doesn't count as anything. The sole reason you CAN'T DIVIDE BY 0 is because it is nonexistant.

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                              • The_Q
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2004
                                • 4391

                                #30
                                in addition, why do we have a word for nothing if the word itself means a void? Same reason to have 0, to acknowledge the void.

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