It's May 22nd

[Nyokou]

Re: It's May 22nd

Ew religion.

My mom keeps telling me that Jesus loves me when I've clearly told her I don't believe in that crap. How annoying. I don't need people on FFR telling me the same shit.

[MrGiggles]

Re: It's May 22nd

Hey, hey... I'm all for arguments about this sort of thing, but take it to CC. This isn't the place for it.

Hell of a double-take I just did there.

I assume you meant CT.

[Reincarnate]

Re: It's May 22nd

we're in ONE of the CC forums, myes

[~kitty~]

Re: It's May 22nd

Science doesn't move the goalposts in the sense that if you provide contradictory evidence for/against something, the science itself changes. In other words, science embraces change through evidence. Moving the goalposts is the exact opposite of this -- imposing more and more conditions even once the hypothesis has already been addressed. You hold your claim constant and warp the evidence around it or demand more.

In this case, the guy (forgot his name) is moving the goalposts by saying "Ok well NEXT time will REALLY be Doomsday!" This is literally all he can do each time he is shown to be false. You can't prove the Doomsday guys wrong until the day actually rolls by, but even when it does and nothing happens, people will make up additional reasons to hold their general hypothesis as true despite the contradictory evidence.

This is why I got confused when he used it out of context. I think it's more important to understand his intent than the semantics, though. However, if he really meant it that way, I really feel like he shouldn't be posting here at all. Honestly, when I was using my quotes, I was quoting it in the context of which he was probably using it. I don't even know it kind of confuses me because it doesn't make much sense. I feel like if he were to make such claims, at the very least he should provide examples, even if they were incorrect. It's a really vague statement and very unclear to me. Maybe it's just the heat, but I'm just getting more and more confused on what he's trying to say.

[Reincarnate]

Re: It's May 22nd

This is why I got confused when he used it out of context. I think it's more important to understand his intent than the semantics, though. However, if he really meant it that way, I really feel like he shouldn't be posting here at all. Honestly, when I was using my quotes, I was quoting it in the context of which he was probably using it. I don't even know it kind of confuses me because it doesn't make much sense. I feel like if he were to make such claims, at the very least he should provide examples, even if they were incorrect. It's a really vague statement and very unclear to me. Maybe it's just the heat, but I'm just getting more and more confused on what he's trying to say.

As far as I can tell he was equating "move the goalposts" with "change."

The point though is that you can either change to incorporate new evidence or you can change to avoid it.

Of course, people like Harold Camping will do anything to perpetuate completely insane bullshit for a quick buck. It's a real shame that money gets malinvested into stupid crap like this when it could be put into something that actually provides utility to people instead of just fearmongering and lunacy.

[rushyrulz]

Re: It's May 22nd

I think 2 + 2 = 43. Lets argue that point. I don't care how much evidence you provide, but I will always believe it to be true because 'my' beliefs are set in stone and therefore must be correct.

religion^

[Treia]

Re: It's May 22nd

I think 2 + 2 = 43. Lets argue that point. I don't care how much evidence you provide, but I will always believe it to be true because 'my' beliefs are set in stone and therefore must be correct.

religion^

lol No, that sounds more like someone who is too stubborn or unwilling to be open to the truth. You really can't expect that to be everyone's mentality with/for religion, or reason behind having religion. People like that have no idea how to segregate their beliefs from real life. This (your remark) counts for A LOT of people, so it's not like you're off the mark - but creating a pool like that isn't realistic. But I otherwise understand your generalization, and see where you're going with it

But 43 . . . Man, c'mon . . . *shakes my head* You're clearly off by 21.

lolreligionrebuttal^

[ChesterDalton]

Re: It's May 22nd

I think 2 + 2 = 43. Lets argue that point. I don't care how much evidence you provide, but I will always believe it to be true because 'my' beliefs are set in stone and therefore must be correct.

religion^

Except you can't provide evidence that atheism is accurate and correct.

[Reincarnate]

Re: It's May 22nd

lol if you're going to troll, at least be good at it

[Izzy]

Re: It's May 22nd

Except you can't provide evidence that atheism is accurate and correct.

but.. atheism has no set of beliefs.

[Reincarnate]

Re: It's May 22nd

You can't provide evidence that Leprechauns don't exist

[remedy1502]

Re: It's May 22nd

lmfao

[DarknessXoXLight]

Re: It's May 22nd

[Treia]

Re: It's May 22nd

Uh, duhh, Reincarnate! How else does Lucky Charms, the greatest cereal in existence, have a mascot? I mean, whoever proposed the idea to General Mills had to have said,

"Hey, I got this idea for the BEST cereal! It's going to be like Cheerios, but with marshmallows of various shapes. Lucky Charms! Eh? Eh?"

"I like it! How will we market this?"

"Pfft! With leprechauns of course!"

"How do we know it will appeal to everybody?"

"Catchphase?"

"Shoot."

"Wonderfully delicious?"

"Too ordinary. We need something that everyone can believe in . . ."

together - "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS!"

"On the button, Kip! Magic is real!"

Kip would of been fired for pitching that if otherwise


EDIT:

Damn you, DarknessXoXLight!!! Looks like we have the same track of mind lol

[who_cares973]

Re: It's May 22nd

enjoyable as enjoyable gets