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  • Relambrien
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 1644

    #91
    Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

    I'm going to post some advice I've gotten from Something Awful since I too am in a market for a new computer.

    First of all, future-proofing is impossible. Three years from now, what is top-of-the-line now won't be able to play anything. So buying super-high-end is never worth the value. Instead, buy cheaper mid-range parts that will do everything you want them to do now, and use the cash you save to upgrade that computer fairly regularly, or build a brand new system in two years or so.

    Quad-core processors like the Core 2 Quad series and the i7 series aren't being properly utilized by today's applications. If you're not going to do much in the way of video encoding or other ridiculously processor-intensive tasks, you won't see much of a performance gain between a Core 2 Duo and an i7. Especially not in gaming.

    It's a similar thing with video cards. The absolute best value card on the market right now is an ATi HD4850. It runs you less than $120 but can play anything you can throw at it at max or near-max settings with no problem at 1680x1050. Since you've said you're looking for a 24"-28" screen, however, you're going to be looking at some very high resolutions, in which case a 4890 or one of nVidia's higher-end offerings would be good to look into.

    Additionally, SLi and Crossfire aren't exactly as good as you would think. Two cards does not mean double performance. In fact, the performance gains are usually only somewhat noticeable and you would have been much better served buying a single more powerful card.

    That said, the computer build I'm currently putting together costs less than $800, yet it will run everything like a monster. It could run Crysis probably not at max settings, but close to them.

    If you want more specific guides about which parts to pick, check out The Tech Report's Summer 2009 System Guide. It gives all the info you could ever want and suggested systems on every budget. TR also has a guide on how to put a computer together yourself, and it really isn't very hard. Look at it here.

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    • Nightfirecat
      ...back from the dead.
      • Nov 2006
      • 3213

      #92
      Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

      Well, I just have a pretty basic keyboard and mouse. Cost about 15 bucks to get em:

      Keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126023
      Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826105185

      But if you want a gaming keyboard, I'd suggest the OLD logitech G15.

      Link: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Backl...6908975&sr=8-3

      If you can't find an old one, get a new one.

      Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...logitech%20g15


      As for gaming mouses - I haven't found that I've needed one. That microsoft mouse seems to do fine. Beautiful, easy to use, and cheap.


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      • Conorn
        Lord of the Tea Republic
        • Jan 2007
        • 856

        #93
        Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

        just remember rubix, DONT GET VISTA.
        Yep.

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        • MrRubix
          FFR Player
          • May 2026
          • 8340

          #94
          Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

          Well this rig comes with 64 bit vista, although there is a free upgrade to windows 7.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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          • Conorn
            Lord of the Tea Republic
            • Jan 2007
            • 856

            #95
            Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

            i suggest the upgrade in my opinion
            Yep.

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            • MrRubix
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              • May 2026
              • 8340

              #96
              Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

              Is Vista *really* that bad for gaming?

              I've been using XP for years, and I've always been really hesitant to upgrade to Vista due to the intense controversies and complaints, but I can't help but wonder if they're outmoded complaints by now. Is Vista 64 bit actually any good?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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              • fido123
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2005
                • 4245

                #97
                Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                Vista isn't nearly as bad as people say, however XP and 7 are better for gaming, but not enough to avoid at all.

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                • MrRubix
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2026
                  • 8340

                  #98
                  Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                  I figure I'll just install Vista and then when 7 comes out, upgrade and give it a shot.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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                  • jugglinguy
                    Use me as a porta-potty
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 4319

                    #99
                    Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                    Lolwindows
                    Originally posted by Jem
                    Jem is my name. No one else is the same!

                    You're Aja Leith of the Holograms! You're very exotic, intelligent and sophisticated.

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                    • ninjaKIWI
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                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3304

                      #100
                      Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                      Originally posted by ninjaKIWI
                      EDIT: I would also recommend the Razer Lachesis mouse and the OLD Logitech G15 keyboard, depending on the gaming you will be doing. The ability to create macros on the keyboard is more useful than you would assume.
                      This. Never use an optical mouse for gaming, ugh.

                      Originally posted by Conorn
                      just remember rubix, DONT GET VISTA.
                      There's absolutely nothing wrong with Vista, you don't know what you're talking about.
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                      • Solid Dreams
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 298

                        #101
                        Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                        I like the logitech g11 personally. I think it's easier to stretch from ASWD than from the numpad.

                        You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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                        • MrGiggles
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2846

                          #102
                          Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                          Originally posted by ninjaKIWI
                          There's absolutely nothing wrong with Vista, you don't know what you're talking about.
                          Yes there is, and pretending otherwise is just silly.

                          It was a rushed product that the became the 'in' thing to hate. It's improved drastically, but since it's image was marred so early Microsoft decided to rename Windows 6.1 'Windows 7'. 7 is really just a point upgrade from Vista, with a bunch of 'under the hood' improvements.

                          Monitors. I don't really keep up with monitors, I'm still using a 4:3 19" Dell LCD. I hear Samsung has some exceptionally good gaming monitors, but I can't recall which ones they are. Many people will tell you to stick with LCD's, and others will scoff and recommend CRT's for blacker blacks and various other minute advantages that no one really cares about.

                          OLD Logitech G15 keyboard
                          Everyone recommends these for gaming. I wouldn't know, I don't have one, but it's probably a safe bet. Good luck finding one, they're out of production, having been replaced by a new version dubbed "G15 Refresh" as opposed to "G15 Gaming".

                          Logitech also makes some really great mice (I recall the G5 in particular being recommended to me), but you have to watch out for the silly ricer mice they also make that have tons of LED's and a weird shape that gives your hand diseases.

                          On the subject of price/performance and future-proofing, Relambrien is absolutely correct, except that I'd give a system like yours much longer than three years. Double that, probably.

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                          • MrRubix
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2026
                            • 8340

                            #103
                            Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                            Have any of you used Windows 7 beta?
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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                            • Solid Dreams
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 298

                              #104
                              Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                              Samsung's new ones are great, but like giggles I cant really remember.



                              They do however do the 3D stuff. Which is pretty slick.

                              You shouldn't talk down to people you don't know anything about, acting like you know more and then try to show them up in the forum. That's how you get absolutely no where.

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                              • Relambrien
                                FFR Player
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1644

                                #105
                                Re: Getting a new computer. Need advice.

                                Originally posted by MrRubix
                                Have any of you used Windows 7 beta?
                                I'm on the RC right now. It really is basically a fixed Windows Vista. The most obvious change is in the taskbar. You can make it so that none of the icons on the taskbar use text in any way, only icons, which saves space. All windows from the same program are grouped under the same icon. It's really very useful.

                                Search has been upgraded so that instead of navigating to all your different files, you can just type in the name and by some magic the OS manages to find it for you in a second or two.

                                There are new options for resizing windows which are particularly useful for dual-monitor setups.

                                Windows Update is much better than it ever was previously due to the ability for Windows to find drivers automatically for virtually all of your hardware.

                                Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player have been improved beyond all recognition. IE may not yet be a competitor with Firefox and Chrome yet, but it's much better than it ever has been. Windows Media Player has thrown everything I've played at it, and even succeeded at things that old favorite Media Player Classic has not.

                                Compatibility is a non-issue as anything that worked in Vista should work just fine in 7.

                                Homegroups are a fantastic addition to networking.

                                Finally, the most controversial aspect of Windows Vista, UAC, has been tweaked and improved in every way. It is now exceptionally effective while remaining non-intrusive. I experience maybe one or two UAC prompts a day at most.

                                Really, the list of improvements is endless. Compatibility was the main issue with Vista when it launched, and that's been largely fixed. Windows 7 builds on that and improves virtually every aspect of the OS. I have had absolutely zero problems with Windows 7 and would recommend that anyone who has the specs to run it get it.

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