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  • speeddemon
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2004
    • 404

    #1

    Pandemic

    No, not the game. No, not swine flu. Hypothetical question.

    Imagine that there was a pandemic, one that was guaranteed to devastate humanity immensely. Now the cure is found, but many people have died. Billions are clamoring for a cure, but you only have so many vaccines. The virus is sure to leave some people alive, but you are unsure of who, as the young or strong die just as often as the old or weak. How would you decide who to vaccinate? Your actions will condemn thousands to their deaths, but you hold in your hands a way to ensure that some of the best genes mankind has to offer are passed along. By that same token, if you only save those that can still reproduce, you be left without a generation of children and the ones that are saved will resent you for the deaths of loved ones, friends, parents, grandparents, children, etc.

    It was a question posed to us by one of our teachers, and it actually made me think. I know logically what types of people i would save, but emotionally i cannot condemn so many. The decision to me seems to have the same, if not more gravity than the decision to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    I would prefer serious thought in the matter, but i doubt this is actually something that would be considered as a CT thread.

    Oh and just to cover my bases, i haven't seen this sort of thread, but i also haven't been around as of late. I did a quick scan of the threads, but i very well may have missed the thread that's like this one if it exists.
    Last edited by speeddemon; 04-30-2009, 09:03 PM. Reason: grammar
  • NFD
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2007
    • 4715

    #2
    Re: Pandemic

    That there WAS* a pandemic, jeez.

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    • speeddemon
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2004
      • 404

      #3
      Re: Pandemic

      Thanks i guess?

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      • foilman8805
        smoke wheat hail satin
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2006
        • 5704

        #4
        Re: Pandemic

        I don't know if NFD's grammar correction applies anyways...'is' makes more sense since you're trying to get us to focus on the situation. Whatever. Doesn't matter.

        Truly a thought provoking question...I'm almost prepared to say that I can't answer it. Just too many variables for me to comprehend.

        Assuming things like libraries, and informational resources are still available after the pandemic (meaning no sciences or information is lost), and that the public has placed their faith in my decision, then I would quite honestly go with a lottery system. 'Lottery' is taken out of context here because you're obviously winning nothing you'd want.

        I'd inform the public of the situation, distribute tickets to everyone, and then pull the numbers. Simple, fair, and likely the only solution that wouldn't cause massive backlash. The process would be transparent too. Nothing behind closed doors. Everyone would see it.

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        • Izzy
          Snek
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 9195

          #5
          Re: Pandemic

          Maybe tickets to whole familys. So you are saved as a family.

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          • danthemano
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2008
            • 263

            #6
            Re: Pandemic

            Rock paper scissors tournament.
            It'll make the winners feel like they deserve to be alive because its not completely a random selection. Everyone has the opportunity to win.
            The only problem is people with guns who don't like rock paper scissors and want to live.
            or just generally people with guns, because the truth is that if they're not chosen to survive, then they really have nothing left to live for. Which would lead to some bad stuff.
            Originally posted by MrDespair
            You have some issues regarding to unhygienic anger, putting bodywaste on people? Could i suggest you try some Manga?

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            • Necros140606
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2006
              • 1088

              #7
              Re: Pandemic

              let people die until the cure is enough for the survivors

              jk let all the people die this is what the planet's waiting for

              also take advantage of the situation and kill every [insert category here]

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              • DrKirth
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2006
                • 484

                #8
                Re: Pandemic

                Let your colleague distribute the cures. Then you wouldn't have to decide yourself. It's a common and effective practice.


                Be efficient.

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                • Crashfan3
                  FFR Player
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 2937

                  #9
                  Re: Pandemic

                  I hate to seem like a complete asshole with this post, but somebody's gotta do it.

                  You could use this pandemic as an opportunity to "prune" the human race, on either a physical or psychological basis.

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                  • speeddemon
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 404

                    #10
                    Re: Pandemic

                    Originally posted by Crashfan3
                    I hate to seem like a complete asshole with this post, but somebody's gotta do it.

                    You could use this pandemic as an opportunity to "prune" the human race, on either a physical or psychological basis.
                    Of course you don't seem an asshole. Stated as a possibility in the op. It's something i would highly consider doing, but the problem with that is there isn't a sure way to know who truly belongs among the elite. Perfect example; i myself am pretty intelligent, but if you were to see me you would probably think stoner, or dropout, or some such thing. If the disease were able to kill someone in the matter of a day, there would be no time for testing, and thus you would have to go on quickly found data, which can be inaccurate, or looks and first impressions alone. If you were able to pull it off though, most of the lives saved would be much happier ones, given the situation. Major reform could begin if you were to succeed, leading to much better lives for any future generations as well.

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                    • Plaking
                      FFR Player
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: Pandemic

                      Id hide the cure and just use it on myself and the girl i Like, then when evryones dead except the two of us, we can revive the world.

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                      • foilman8805
                        smoke wheat hail satin
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 5704

                        #12
                        Re: Pandemic

                        Inbred, mutated children abound.

                        That sounds great.

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                        • speeddemon
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 404

                          #13
                          Re: Pandemic

                          Originally posted by Plaking
                          Id hide the cure and just use it on myself and the girl i Like, then when evryones dead except the two of us, we can revive the world.
                          And have a severely limited gene pool, not to mention your children would have to reproduce with each other. You would have to learn how to help with childbirth. You would only be curing two people, and surely your supply would run short if you had no idea how to make the vaccine. Way down the line, assuming you raise your children the way i see someone like you doing, which is without true knowledge of how much of a supply you have left, you would run out of vaccines. Unless you knew the location, and taught every child of yours biology and how to create the vaccine and change it should mutations occur, you will have doomed mankind.

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                          • Syhto
                            BuMP it
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2466

                            #14
                            Re: Pandemic

                            kill everything

                            except for me

                            then die alone of old age among the animals and corpses littering the streets and homes
                            homes rotting and infested with insects and rats
                            it would be so eerily awesome

                            it would be cool to meet on the other side and be like, yeah, that's right
                            i was the last one left
                            Originally posted by ~jrodd
                            keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
                            Originally posted by ~Tao of Dossar
                            I never self-reflect, and therefore, I have no negative thoughts about myself. However I am also aware about my successes.

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                            • coraleaterlinda
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 415

                              #15
                              Re: Pandemic

                              pick a number between 1 and 10.

                              seriously, do some kind of random drawing/lottery thing.

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