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  • ruferddude
    FFR Veteran
    • Oct 2004
    • 165

    #16
    Re: Math problems

    Well I live in Texas so my Math classes are weird O.o
    I'm considered "advanced" so in seventh grade I took Pre-Algebra. Eigth grade was Algebra I. Ninth grade was Geometry. Tenth grade was Algebra II. Now I'm about to be in Pre-Calculus. Then AP Calculus as a senior. If you aren't "advanced" then you take everything a year later than me (you finish off with Pre-Calculus as a senior). I don't know where "functions and relations" rank in my education system.
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    • og4lif
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2007
      • 38

      #17
      Re: Math problems

      lol actually im takin calculus and vectors right now i finished that course a year ago



      functions and relations is pre-calculus

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      • NarutoFoxDemon
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2006
        • 1181

        #18
        Re: Math problems

        Originally posted by ruferddude
        Ah. You guys are right. I didn't see that I was dividing by 0. I feel dumb now.

        I should have seen it. ><
        Thanks for pointing this out and thanks for showing me how dumb I am. ><
        And sorry for the misplacement. I didn't realize the answers were so easy to get. I thought it would take some actual thought to figure out but I come back 10 minutes later and like 8 people figured them both out.

        Edit: Now I feel doubly dumb. ; ; On the video that I posted to make things more clear, like two people pointed out that it was dividing by zero on their comments. The whole second equation could have been left out if I only had read YouTube comments.

        Shame shame, dividing by zero.

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        • solopro
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          • May 2006
          • 448

          #19
          Re: Math problems

          The second statement, I've looked at it and it's interesting. There's also something on Wikipedia I've seen that says zero is equal to one.
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          • lord_carbo
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2004
            • 6222

            #20
            Re: Math problems

            0.99999999999 repeating = 1.

            I win. Infinitesimals win. That ****ing dumbass 11th grade math 10th grader at my lunch table who insists I'm wrong about all of this loses.
            Last edited by Squeek; 08-26-2007, 02:53 AM. Reason: 99 != 1
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            • silvercomet1525
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2005
              • 601

              #21
              Re: Math problems

              Originally posted by lord_carbo
              0.99999999999 repeating = 1.
              Yup. This website may help for anyone who thinks otherwise. Nine different proofs on there.
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              • og4lif
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2007
                • 38

                #22
                Re: Math problems

                Originally posted by og4lif
                X = variable

                (1/sin^2 X) + (1/cos^2 X) = (tan X + 1/tan X)^2
                no calculators 4 this 1
                We already figured that out but can any1 solve this?

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                • vifs
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 52

                  #23
                  Re: Math problems

                  Originally posted by og4lif
                  We already figured that out but can any1 solve this?
                  umm... X = 2 dozen boxes of Pi

                  lol i could most likely solve it if i was in school, im pretty much shut down even though school started in 4 days


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                  • MrRubix
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2026
                    • 8340

                    #24
                    Re: Math problems

                    I'm a little rusty when it comes to trig identities but here goes:

                    (1/sin^2X) + (1/cos^2X) = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    First I'd combine the first two terms:

                    (cos^2X+sin^2X)/(sin^2X*cos^2X) = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    The numerator, cosX^2 + sin^2X, is equal to 1:

                    1/(sin^2X*cos^2X) = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    This is the same as:

                    (1/(sinX*cosX))^2 = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    So now we are basically trying to equate the things within the second-power-raise, so we aim to equate 1/(sinX*cosX) and tan X + 1/tanX.

                    Since tan = sin/cos and 1/tan or cot = cos/sin, we see that the right hand side is basically sin/cos + cos/sin, so we have two instances of each. Currently, the left hand side has half as many instances. Therefore we should try to prove this by simplifying the right-hand side:

                    tanX + 1/tanX
                    We then change tanX into tan^2X/tanX so we can combine like terms:
                    (1 + tan^2X)/tanX
                    And change our tangents into their sine and cosine equivalents:
                    (1 + (sinX/cosX)^2)/(sinX/cosX)
                    We then change the 1 into cos^2X/cos^2X so we can combine it as a like term later:
                    ((cos^2X/cos^2X) + (sin^2X/cos^2X))/(sinX/cosX)
                    Combining terms:
                    (((cos^2X + sin^2X)/cos^2X))/(sinX/cosX)
                    cos^2X + sin^2X is equal to 1:
                    (1/cos^2X)/(sinX/cosX)
                    Then we simplify things a bit:
                    cosX/(sinX*cos^2X)
                    And finally drop the common cosX from the numerator and denominator:
                    1/(sinX*cosX)

                    Since we just proved 1/(sinX*cosX) = tanX + 1/tanX, we therefore prove:

                    (1/(sinX*cosX))^2 = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    And since we showed that (1/sin^2X) + (1/cos^2X) = (1/(sinX*cosX))^2, we therefore prove:

                    (1/sin^2X) + (1/cos^2X) = (tan X + 1/tanX)^2

                    Edit: Oh yeah, QED
                    Last edited by MrRubix; 08-26-2007, 10:43 AM.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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                    • og4lif
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 38

                      #25
                      Re: Math problems

                      good job rubix you don't look that rusty too me
                      must have taken a while too get that all down

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                      • Relambrien
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1644

                        #26
                        Re: Math problems

                        For anyone too lazy to understand the (1/3) + (1/3) + (1/3) = 1 thing, I'll write an explanation that hopefully most can understand.

                        First, 1/3 = 0.333...

                        The "..." means that the sequence repeats infinitely, to the point where the last digit is a "3" and you cannot add a zero after that. It may sound weird, but trust me, that's the simplest explanation.

                        Now with simple algebra, we can understand more things.

                        0.333... = 1/3
                        0.999... = 1 (Multiply each side by 3)

                        But how can this be true? This is how:

                        Oh, and the space filter makes this a little hard to read. Sorry.

                        Let c = 0.999...

                        c = 0.999...
                        10c = 9.999... (Multiply each side by 10)
                        9c = 9.000... (Subtract 1c from each side)
                        c = 1.000... (Divide each side by 9)
                        c = 1 (Simplify)
                        0.999... = 1 (Substitution property of equality)

                        Yes, I stole this from Wikipedia.

                        And about the second problem, it just goes to show you that simplifying after every step is key . If you do that, you find out that you get 0=0 early on.
                        Last edited by Relambrien; 08-26-2007, 12:09 PM.

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