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  • Pichu_XP
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2006
    • 950

    #1

    Pluto's Demotion

    A history lesson (Skip if you wish):
    As many of you may already know, Pluto has been striped of its title as a planet and is now a dwarf planet. The controversy concerning whether or not Pluto is deservent of its title as a planet has been around for years. Mainly due to its irregularity (an outer planet composed of dust and ice) and its size (smaller than some moons). Well, after a few years and the discover of other bodies beyond Pluto (one of which bigger than Pluto), the IAU decided to place some requirements as to what an object must be in order to be classified as a planet. They are as follows:
    1. The object must be in orbit around the Sun.
    2. The object must be massive enough to be a sphere by its own gravitational force. More specifically, its own gravity should pull it into a shape of hydrostatic equilibrium.
    3. It must have cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.
    Pluto, failing the third requirement (it crosses through another planets orbit), lost its former title as a planet.

    Personally I find that the IAU's standards are stupid. Plain stupid. The third one anyways.
    The third one says that the object's orbit must not cross any other objects' orbits. That's just silly. Seeing as Earth itself, crosses into the orbit of several thousand objects close to its size. Does that make our planet a dwarf one as well?
    In fact, Mars' and Jupiter's orbits crosses others' as well. Why aren't they demoted.
    All in all, if the IAU decides to demote a planet, they should at least have a good reason to.

    That's my opinion on Pluto's demotion. How about sharing your view on this?
  • cC@Zz
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 1427

    #2
    Re: Pluto's Demotion

    I do agree that the 3rd rule is stupid. Personally I think they should have kept Pluto classified as a planet.
    There is a 50% chance your pillow will eat you while you are sleeping.

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    • itmorr
      Custom User Title
      • Jun 2006
      • 1498

      #3
      Re: Pluto's Demotion

      I think Pluto shouldn't have been demoted from being a planet.




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      • Pichu_XP
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2006
        • 950

        #4
        Re: Pluto's Demotion

        I think I should add a poll.
        EDIT: Should've made one while I still had the chance.

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        • jchinzilla
          i like cheese
          • Dec 2005
          • 2106

          #5
          Re: Pluto's Demotion

          in the wise words of the 2 Skinnee J's, PLUTO IS A PLANET!

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          • Afrobean
            Admiral in the Red Army
            • Dec 2003
            • 13262

            #6
            Re: Pluto's Demotion

            I never considered Pluto a true planet. The only reason you guys do is because that's what people always told you. It's entirely not like any planet. If I had classified it, I would have called it a planetoid.

            In the end, people complaining about the change in title are just being whiny bitches because they think that since it was called a planet before, it should always be called a planet. Honestly, I don't see why it took them so long for the scientific community to get their collective thumbs out of their collective asses and get this changed.

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            • Ruu
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2006
              • 70

              #7
              Re: Pluto's Demotion

              Calling Pluto a planet, would basically mean the hundreds of moons in our Solar system would be considered planets. With the exception of a few.

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              • סּ_סּ
                Banned
                • Feb 2007
                • 225

                #8
                Re: Pluto's Demotion

                the only reason why people want it to be a planet again is because it was taught to us at schools and everything. It's not exactly awkward or anything to remember being the last planet and all.

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                • cC@Zz
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1427

                  #9
                  Re: Pluto's Demotion

                  Originally posted by Ruu
                  Calling Pluto a planet, would basically mean the hundreds of moons in our Solar system would be considered planets. With the exception of a few.
                  Well call them planets then. I moons should be considered planets as well. I consider any massive object with its own gravitational force a planet.
                  Last edited by cC@Zz; 03-25-2007, 09:34 AM.
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                  • RandomPscho
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 504

                    #10
                    Re: Pluto's Demotion

                    I consider any massive object with its own gravitational force a planet.
                    Everything exerts a gravitational force. Massive is an opinion. With that logic I can consider an ant to be a planet... It is bigger than atoms so I'll consider it massive, and it has a gravitation force.

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                    • cC@Zz
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1427

                      #11
                      Re: Pluto's Demotion

                      Originally posted by RandomPscho
                      Everything exerts a gravitational force. Massive is an opinion. With that logic I can consider an ant to be a planet... It is bigger than atoms so I'll consider it massive, and it has a gravitation force.
                      Alright I should been more specific. Like objects in space that orbit around the sun. Like something that meets the first two qualifications in the first post of the thread.
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                      • Afrobean
                        Admiral in the Red Army
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 13262

                        #12
                        Re: Pluto's Demotion

                        Originally posted by cC@Zz
                        Alright I should been more specific. Like objects in space that orbit around the sun. Like something that meets the first two qualifications in the first post of the thread.
                        Let's take a look at Earth's moon. Would you call that a planet?

                        Sure, the Moon's orbit around the Sun is staggered thanks to its simultaneous orbit around the Earth, but take a look at Charon. They say that Charon and Pluto could easily be considered a binary system BECAUSE THEIR CENTER POINT OF ORBIT IS NOT WITHIN EITHER BODY. Basically, they're moons of each other in a way. Pluto just got the title of planet because it's a bit bigger.

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                        • OnlyTheClouds
                          FFR Player
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 108

                          #13
                          Re: Pluto's Demotion

                          Which moons don't, so if they decided Pluto was a planet still, it wouldn't matter about the moons because they don't orbit the Sun. Maybe there were more specifications as to why Pluto wasn't a planet after all. Are you sure that those 3 are the only rules the IAU went by? Post a link to your source, please.

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                          • cC@Zz
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1427

                            #14
                            Re: Pluto's Demotion

                            Originally posted by Afrobean
                            Let's take a look at Earth's moon. Would you call that a planet?

                            Sure, the Moon's orbit around the Sun is staggered thanks to its simultaneous orbit around the Earth, but take a look at Charon. They say that Charon and Pluto could easily be considered a binary system BECAUSE THEIR CENTER POINT OF ORBIT IS NOT WITHIN EITHER BODY. Basically, they're moons of each other in a way. Pluto just got the title of planet because it's a bit bigger.
                            Well knowing all that I guess I wouldn't consider the moon a planet.
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                            • Afrobean
                              Admiral in the Red Army
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 13262

                              #15
                              Re: Pluto's Demotion

                              Originally posted by cC@Zz
                              Well knowing all that I guess I wouldn't consider the moon a planet.
                              I didn't know that before today, but I still never considered it a true planet.

                              Learn to think for yourself and don't just accept what your teacher has to say about what is or is not a planet. Pluto is unlike the nearby planets and is ****ing way too small.

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