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  • DarkProdigy
    FFR Veteran
    • Aug 2005
    • 893

    #1

    The enemy has fallen

    Imagine this: You're playing your favorite MMO, grinding levels, PKing, or defeating that uber-scary boss. Did you get any good items in the process? Perhaps that legendary Spoon of Infinite Stirring you've been longing to obtain? I hope you enjoy it, because the government wants to tax your virtual property.

    Are you ready to pay?
    Are you a stepartist?
  • OnlyTheClouds
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 108

    #2
    Re: The enemy has fallen

    Motivation to get a real job so they can tax you for the money you get from that, I suppose.

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    • lord_carbo
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2004
      • 6222

      #3
      Re: The enemy has fallen

      ..........

      I'm lost for words.

      Since when has the IRS had the right to take control over the development of a video game and its virtual economy? Wait, they don't, and they shouldn't.

      Greedy whores.
      Last edited by lord_carbo; 03-24-2007, 09:46 AM.
      last.fm

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      • Ruu
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2006
        • 70

        #4
        Re: The enemy has fallen

        America, what a country.

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        • vashthestampede0987
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2004
          • 2997

          #5
          Re: The enemy has fallen

          Was hoping this was about Gaia. =/

          IRS makes me rofl though
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          • GuidoHunter
            is against custom titles
            • Oct 2003
            • 7371

            #6
            Re: The enemy has fallen

            Sounds like they don't want to tax earning money in-game, but rather they want to tax, you know, real income, like the kind everyone gets taxed for.

            Making gold in WoW can't be taxed, but selling goods and services for income probably can.

            If that's the case, what's the big deal?

            EDIT: Way to be completely misleading about the deal, though. That's some nice dead-end rhetoric.

            --Guido

            Last edited by GuidoHunter; 03-24-2007, 11:28 AM.

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            She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
            Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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            • Tps222
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2004
              • 6168

              #7
              Re: The enemy has fallen

              They'd only tax the selling of goods over Ebay and stuff like that.

              EDIT: Guido pretty much ninja'd what I meant.

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              • Eyoshi
                Certified Calendarwhore
                • Nov 2004
                • 1044

                #8
                Re: The enemy has fallen

                Why would the IRS tax transactions that would probably be against the game's ToS?

                I know the practice is lucrative, but trading in-game currency for real-life money is against most MMOs' rules. :/
                Last edited by Eyoshi; 03-24-2007, 11:23 AM.

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                • FFR4EVA_00
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1770

                  #9
                  Re: The enemy has fallen

                  Second Life, I can understand. I heard that someone became a millionaire through playing it. But WoW? Why would anyone want to tax that?
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                  • Eyoshi
                    Certified Calendarwhore
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1044

                    #10
                    Re: The enemy has fallen

                    Originally posted by FFR4EVA_00
                    Second Life, I can understand. I heard that someone became a millionaire through playing it. But WoW? Why would anyone want to tax that?
                    If people can make lots of money out of something, it will be taxed.

                    I'm a bit concerned about the companies that make the games, though. It might become harder for them to keep their in-game economies in check.

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                    • GuidoHunter
                      is against custom titles
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 7371

                      #11
                      Re: The enemy has fallen

                      Originally posted by Eyoshi
                      Why would the IRS tax transactions that would probably be against the game's ToS?
                      It's a form of income. Why should the IRS care about what the game developer thinks of the practice that they can't even control?

                      --Guido


                      Originally posted by Grandiagod
                      Originally posted by Grandiagod
                      She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                      Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                      • evilbutterfly
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 5784

                        #12
                        Re: The enemy has fallen

                        They need to just get rid of income tax and raise sales tax. That would fix all of this and more.

                        And yeah, the title is more misleading, but if they're just taxing online transactions of real money then whatever. And ebay has banned virtual items, so that befuddles some of the trading that goes on. I dunno, if the government does this and doesn't raise taxes elsewhere, whatever, cuz it's not like I make money off of WoW gold.

                        EDIT: Guido, I think he's saying it'd be like taxing the illegal drug trade. 1) It shouldn't be happening anyway, 2) Because of 1, it makes it hard to track and accurately tax.
                        So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                        In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                        So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                        And I write the blog for their website.

                        Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                        • nforcer06164
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 4772

                          #13
                          Re: The enemy has fallen

                          If there's actual income involved, yeah, it makes total sense to me. But, "valuable" online property, with "value" only having meaning in-game, that it's totally ridiculous. In the context of the article... well, I see no problem.

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                          • CaMino
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Re: The enemy has fallen

                            I dont really understand waht your saying lol

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