Global Warming

[Swoop]

Re: Global Warming

I want it to be warmer because, I do not like the cold.
Also if Henry, Ford wouldn't have made the automobile, we wouldn't have half as much pollution!

[Specforces]

Re: Global Warming

Jesus, what do they teach kids today?

[cC@Zz]

Re: Global Warming

Jesus, what do they teach kids today?

How to perform safe sex.

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Global Warming

Jesus, what do they teach kids today?

Not the fucking Bible...that's for sure.

Oh no he din't

[nforcer06164]

Re: Global Warming

Yeah, the polar ice caps are melting. So are the brains of everyone that thinks it's a problem. Where did all of our lakes come from? Why is the sea higher today? Hey, remember that Ice Age a while back? If there is such a thing as "global warming," it isn't humanity's fault. It's the natural progression of nature.

[Reach]

Re: Global Warming

Yeah, the polar ice caps are melting. So are the brains of everyone that thinks it's a problem. Where did all of our lakes come from? Why is the sea higher today? Hey, remember that Ice Age a while back? If there is such a thing as "global warming," it isn't humanity's fault. It's the natural progression of nature.

Seems rather ignorant to assume you cannot alter the state of a chemical system by altering its contents. The planet goes through cycles for a reason; to balance the system and create an equilibrium. Altering these cycles would not devastate the planet per say, but could cause some major problems for our little civilization that depends on these cycles for our existance.

I don't think anyone is denying that climate change will happen naturally. That's irrelevant and dodges the point entirely. The point is, how are we altering the natural course of the planet and what are the consequences.


Global warming aside, if you like that O2 you're breathing you should support more measures to keep it poison free.

[nforcer06164]

Re: Global Warming

We can not in any way know how or even if we are altering the earth's natural cycles. But I am simply appalled that there is almost no public counter-argument to global warming. You say the sea's temerature has risen? Great. How well-controlled was your data collection The polar ice caps are melting? Thanks. Unforunately, that's no proof that it's a result of the global warming theory. Who's to say that it wouldn't happen otherwise? I mean, think about it. If glaciers hadn't receded it the first place, we likely wouldn't be here.

I do not claim to be an expert. It just seems odd that we have this theory thrust upon us. Of course, if this theory is true, it may have consequences. But the first thig to consider is, wouldn't we see some sort of progressive change? And can you prove that it's not natural coincidence?

I may very well be wrong. I respect Reach's thoughts on this. My problem is, I think there's a missing piece somewhere in the global warming argument.

[TD_Project]

Re: Global Warming

I want it to be warmer because, I do not like the cold.
Also if Henry, Ford wouldn't have made the automobile, we wouldn't have half as much pollution!

Ford didnt make the automobile. Ford created Mass Production of the automobile.

[talisman]

Re: Global Warming

nforcer: see the body of climate research since 1960, carefully consider it, become an expert if need be, and then comment.

The reason, as I understand, that there isn't a large counterargument to the anthropogenic nature of global warming is because, well, there isn't. The evidence is there... if you want to suggest that it isn't, then the burden of proof is on you to figure out how to construe the evidence otherwise.

[TD_Project]

Re: Global Warming

Either way, whether the environment is changing naturally or aided by our pollution, we still need to do something.

Just because temperature change is natural doesn't mean you can sit on your ass and pretend it's not there.

IF IT IS NATURAL...

Just plain adapt, power conserve as well considering LOTS of power stations will likely be out, and since Canada supplies most of the Northern prairie states with hydroelectric power, you might want to as well. Sea levels will rise, which is cause for alarm as well for people who live on coastal areas. EVEN if this is all natural, the idea of conserving energy and reducing pollutants still shouldn't be tossed aside. After all, houses and cars produce hydrocarbons which create ozone, which is great for the upper atmosphere, if it ever got up that high. (It generally doesn't) However down here, it is a lung irritant. And it's basically smog.

IF IT ISN'T NATURAL...

The idea of power conserving and pollutant reduction should obviously be considered. No matter how big or small of the scale. With Canada + US population alone, even something as turning off a light bulb per person is substantial.

The argument here isn't if it's natural or not, it's taking steps to be more environmentally friendly. And stop sitting on your ass blindly.

EDIT: Added fact. Sydney, Australia's air has more carcinogens than smoking ten cigarettes a day.

[4ERO]

Re: Global Warming

It isn't the planet heating up that we have to worry about...it's the ice age that follows.

Don't believe me? See here http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm

[Swoop]

Re: Global Warming

It isn't the planet heating up that we have to worry about...it's the curricular programs that children in school are not learning!

Jesus has spoken!!(fancy Laaaa! music plays)

[ChaosMaster1]

Re: Global Warming

yea, i just saw this movie about global warming, an inconvenent truth.
it told you what you can do to save the earth.

https://www.climatecrisis.net

[Iwhaiwnfi]

Re: Global Warming

I don't think it's impossible but I find it hard to believe in it.

To determine the Earth is actually getting hotter, we'd have to compare it to older records, in order to determine anything remotely conclusive. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that we had as accurate readings in past centuries, or even decades, as we do now.

[Reach]

Re: Global Warming

I don't think it's impossible but I find it hard to believe in it.

To determine the Earth is actually getting hotter, we'd have to compare it to older records, in order to determine anything remotely conclusive. And honestly, I find it hard to believe that we had as accurate readings in past centuries, or even decades, as we do now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr-2.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Co2-temperature-plot.svg

The atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and methane have increased by 31% and 149% respectively above pre-industrial levels since 1750. This is considerably higher than at any time during the last 650,000 years, the period for which reliable data has been extracted from ice cores. From less direct geological evidence it is believed that carbon dioxide values this high were last attained 40 million years ago. About three-quarters of the anthropogenic (man-made) emissions of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere during the past 20 years are due to fossil fuel burning. The rest of the anthropogenic emissions are predominantly due to land-use change, especially deforestation.[8]