Hay FFR, I need your input

[Tps222]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Homework is a necessary tool in order to teach kids work ethic and study habits. I suppose just giving tests and term papers similar to college would be most beneficial, but then I think the majority of the students would be discouraged and weakened.

[Ryusei_]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Now, in general, the Florida school system is a rather bad one. Because this is the only place I have ever lived, I can only tell you specifics for my wonderful education avenues. And here they are.

(1) Nearly all of the schools in my county, and many others, are overfilled, with no plans for new ones for several years (I do live in a rather big county)

(2) Our standard of teaching is severly lowered, considering what is taught and learned up north. (The GED test here requires no more than a 9th grade education. 8th in some cases.)

(3) We sure as hell don't have enough teachers. Every year our classes are over filled with kids, to the point where we have kids standing in the classroom with no desks. A class of literally 40 meant for a classroom of, oh lets say 25-30 if that.

(4) Most schools don't have enough money to run decent programs or many education feild trips. Hell, our band hasn't been able to buy any new school instruments in a while due to "lack of funds"

(5) And last, but not least, we have a relative of George Bush as govenor, which doesn't help matters. We all hear talks of how he's "improving" our school situation, but no one has yet to see any of these claims put into action. Granted, I understand it IS hard to do, but don't make promises you can't keep.

Now, I'm sure there are many many more, but these are the few subjects that came to my mind after reading this thread. I personally think the Florida's public schools are just lacking compared to just about everywhere else and for the most part, puts a lot of kids at a severe dissadvantage. And the fact that a lot of these are well known problems for the most part, makes it worse for the simple fact that no one does much to solve them.

*note* These are also not just my schools problem but many of these are taking place in a good number of schools around the state. So if you think that I'm just complaining about my school, I'm not.

[JurseyRider734]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

That's because there's so many old people and a lot of money goes into assisted living and **** probably.

[Afrobean]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Elementary school tries to prepare you for middle school,
middle school tries to prepare you for high school,
and high school tries to prepare you for college.

In my experience, it's more like this:
Elementary school lays the foundation of everything you'll ever need to know.
Middle school finishes it off.
High chool is, for the most part, a waste of time.

I say high school is a waste of time, because I easily could have finished 8th grade and immediately gotten a GED. From there, I could learn the few things that I learned in high school in college (like I'm not doing that already anyway...). And ironically, I would have actually learned things better by just skipping high school. The downside is that I'd probably end up pumping a bit more money into college classes, but I'd say it's worth it to not waste 4 years like that.

[mead1]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Paper is done, thx guys. I'll post it monday or something.

[shrimpy]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Where?

[Codename46]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

They're using an educational strategy developed in the 1950's in a world that is far too technologically advanced.

[MalReynolds]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

And no one touches on the social aspect of forced education. I think it's safe to assume Eva and Jay never really had much in the way of friends, considering.

What's wrong with modern education?

Too many people think they're better than it.

[stretchypanda]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Teachers are not paid enough. Schools don't have nearly enough community support. We cannot facilitate learning if children are going home to families who do not value education.
Teachers can't or won't adjust to changes in student behavior as a whole. I worked with a substitute recently who was unable to get beyond the time period when her biggest discipline problem was gum-chewing.
Students are being overdiagnosed and overmedicated. Too often we are excusing a child's bad behavior and saying he just doesn't know any better and there's really nothing we can do except drug him and get him through the standardized tests at the end of the year.
Schools, districts, communities, governments put entirely too much emphasis on standardized tests. Such that teachers are almost forced to "teach to the test", doling out just information so that the students will be labeled "proficient" and the school will not lose more funding because their test scores are too low.

[banditcom]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Also students have to wake up way too early to get ready for school. All that falling asleep is because many have to wake up at 5-6 am.

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Down-C...e=UTF8&s=books

thread over

also homework is completely and utterly useless and serves only as busywork

[dunlop]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

also homework is completely and utterly useless and serves only as busywork

In some classes yes, but for the most part that is so not true.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

also homework is completely and utterly useless and serves only as busywork

Support this statement. In all of my classes homework is obligatory not because the professor's a hardass but because if you don't do it, you are completely unprepared for exams. It is, in fact, the biggest source of learning we have.

There are plenty of assignments that are busywork, but I wouldn't think you'd be so poor a debater as to make a blanket statement like that. Any homework that further engages one in the material he or she is learning not only enhances familiarity with the subject but also provides a path of better understanding of it. You know, learning.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Tokzic]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Support this statement.

*argument against statement*

uh

[dawg4321]

Re: Hay FFR, I need your input

Highly ineffective and very focused on the wrong ideas. They are penny pinching everything and the teachers couldn't care less on a singular student that's struggling. Sure there are exceptions, but most teachers just don't really have the flair for their job.

wow i disagree, i like my school very much.