DirectX(?) lag issues. *UPDATED* New Info.

[87x]

Me again, for my third thread in about 3 months. Comming at you again with some more questions and concerns.

I must first state that this isn't going in the video game section because although it is about a certain game, I don't believe it a game problem. I believe it is something else that I plan on discovering through this discussion.

Now for the problem.
I have been playing City of Heroes for about 2 weeks now and just recently I have been getting these lag problems. It's not laggy when I sign on and it only gets laggy after about 45 minutes of actual playing, like doing missions and what not.

Before I realised that I hadn't had the up to date driver for my ATI stuff, I went through two articles on tweaking your system for better preformance.
1-http://cityofheroes.gameamp.com/guide/viewGuides/310.php!orderBy=
2-http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=324&dPage=2

Now, Basically everything on that CoH guide I did and parts of the things on that other guide I did.

3,5,6,7,8,10 of the city guide were done.
pages 2-6 on the tweak guide. Along with the regcleaner, bootvis, and windows optimizer. ( I later uninstalled all of those under the orders of synth)

I know this isn't a network issue on my side because I can check my signal strength and see that its between 60-70%, usually what it is before I start playing.

After the lag starts to hit the only way to fix it is reseting. Turning off the game and reseting my connection does nothing. The problem only fixes itself after a restart of the computer. This really isn't a problem because it only takes about 3 minutes for it to shutdown and come back up. But haveing to restart every 45 minutes is a big problem. It gets to be very annoying and inconvenient.

If anymore info is needed feel free to ask.
You can find my system info Here.

Thanks again.[/url]

[Tasselfoot]

RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

I love how Trey vanishes for months on end... and comes back with 3 rapid fire threads, ALL DEALING WITH HIS GHETTO COMPUTER.

Last I checked, we're a forum for Finger DDR Online Simulation... not Computer Repair / Tech Help.

But, y'know... its always good to have you browsing around on the forums buddy.

PS - I didn't read a single word in your thread. Can't ya feel the love?

[87x]

RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

I feel it buddy, I feel it. Plus im never gone, Im always looking around on here, I just never post. Mindy(Skooter) posts enough for the both of us. She lets me know whats going on on here most of the time.

I should post more and this is my attempt too post more. Just these are the most recent things on my list of shit, so might as well post about them. I could be like everyone else and post stupid shit like, "Wolf Blitzer is in some Major shit now, follow the link, http://toolz.blogs.com/toolz_of_the_...s/so_black.mov , OH NOES!!".

Anyway, im off for bed.

[87x]

RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

UPDATE:

I think that I have semi found the problem.

I left to goto a birthday party today and I left my screen saver on. When I got back about 7 1/2 hours laters I noticed that the the text on my screen saver were glitching from one place to the other. Now my question to you is, What form is that screen saver in and what would cause it to start glitching around like that?

Im running the 3d text screen saver and I have done all of the tests on the Dxdiag menu with no errors.

Here is a copy of the "save information" log.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/10/2005, 16:45:25
Machine name: 87X
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: RS480_
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - Award BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 262MB used, 2196MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found. DirectPlay test results: All tests were successful.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON X600 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON X600 PRO (0x5B62)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5B62&SUBSYS_000D147B&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6561 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/3/2005 23:10:36, 205312 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 8/3/2005 23:10:16, 1273344 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1822-11CF-6A6E-0720A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x5B62
SubSys ID: 0x000D147B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Devices
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Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10061102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0314 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/4/2004 04:27:46, 840960 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative Technology Ltd.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 96000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 63
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 63
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: P17.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0314 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/4/2004 04:27:46, 840960 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
-----------
DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Creative SoundFont Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4374
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/6/2004 20:18:09, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Easy Internet Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Upper Filters: itchfltr
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 23:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
| Driver: itchfltr.sys, 3/10/2004 13:42:24, 12953 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 22:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 23:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:05:44, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 01:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:05:44, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: All tests were successful.
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Wireless Network Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 31.0 GB
Total Space: 76.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD800JD-00LSA0

Drive: D:
Model: AOPEN COM5232/AAH PRO
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes

Drive: E:
Model: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/3/2004 22:59:54, 49536 bytes


I know thats a lot of shit... but thats what it gave me.

*EDITED*
everyone is complaining .

[Tasuke]

RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

All of those numbers and letters and stuff don't mean anything to 95%
of the FFR peoples

[Snapps]

RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Ask Anticrombie.

Wait for him to reply, he'd know exactly what that is.

[tnyhwk900]

Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Ask Anticrombie.

Wait for him to reply, he'd know exactly what that is.

FFR is so retarded. Anticrombie is not the only person on these boards that knows anything about computers, and you all need to quit sucking him. =\

I know what almost all of that means, but it's almost all useless. It's just lists of currently installed drivers and hardware.

[87x]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Redo the list for better optimization if all of that is useless.. It would be appreciated.

[87x]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Well, I think the problem now lies within the Direct X portion of these animations.
I read some other threads on other forums describing that Direct Sound has to do with some problems in some games.
So I turned off the hardware acceleration for that and Turned my prefetching back on.
Now when I play the game it doesn't run as smooth as it used to, I still saw some lagging around, but not as bad as before.

Also, when I enabled the Frame per/second counter, I saw I was getting anywhere from 25-60 the whole time this lag was going on.
Don't know what any of that means, but figured it might help some intelligent folks out.

[Snapps]

Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Ask Anticrombie.

Wait for him to reply, he'd know exactly what that is.

FFR is so retarded. Anticrombie is not the only person on these boards that knows anything about computers, and you all need to quit sucking him. =\

I know what almost all of that means, but it's almost all useless. It's just lists of currently installed drivers and hardware.

From what I knew, Anticrombie was the only one on FFR who can do it.

[lightdarkness]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Trey, if you didn't try and "optimize" your computer so much, you'd probably have no problems.

The only thing wrong with your setup is the fact you're using wireless, thats IT

[87x]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Hey ld, lay off the wireless speach. If wireless sucked so bad, it wouldn't be so popular.

This isn't a lag (dealing with internet connectivity) anymore. There is nothing wrong with my internet connection.

And I haven't tried "Optimizing" since synth told me not too. Which didn't do anything btw, the problems where already there before them and they (the problems) didn't get any worse of better after them.

I actually recieved help from someone through PM, which is a shame that they didn't post in here, maybe it would of broke this trend of people talking about shit I didn't ask about.

Save all your comments for yourselves. Only post if the content is actually going to help me. Other than that, its getting deleted.

[lightdarkness]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

Trey, wireless is great, but i'm saying it is a problem for you, because you have bad reception in your room.

Thats what I meant.

[87x]

RE: Re: RE: Multiplayer lag issues.

I got good reception since I moved around my shit. Im getting 55%-70% constant.