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  • MalReynolds
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    • Sep 2003
    • 6571

    #1

    The passing of knowledge

    Uh... this didn't hit big in the critical thinking forum... So, give me your thoughts here:

    We all have brains, even if we don't seem to use them all the time. We all have bodies that live and breathe, even if we're lazy bums. We all watch TV, or read books or swim and run. We all learn.

    But, that's the thing. We all learn. We all absorb knowledge into our bloodstream, our system and our brains. Bear with me, it's about to get a little odd.

    All concious thought occurs in the brain and all knowledge is stored in the brain. The law of the convervation of mass states that matter cannot be created or destroyed... So everything in our brain that makes us us, our knowledge and our personalities are stored herein, the brain.

    When we die, the knowledge does not just exit the brain in a fluid motion out the ear, it remains in the brain until the brain biodegrades. Then the knowledge we have is passed into the dirt, along with the rest of the nutrients that our bodies provide... The nutrients make the soil rich in protiens and other vital elemants to ensure the survival of life outside of our own...

    But our thoughts, personality and knowledge with our brain seep into the dirt as well. All around where you are buried, there are remnants of you, not just inside the coffin. In the dirt around you.

    Soon, a worm comes along and eats the dirt around your coffin. It is rich with protiens and you. Your thoughts. The worm takes the food in, absorbs the protiens, and absorbs your thoughts, although not conciously.

    The worm breaches the ground and is picked up by a bird. The bird eats the worm, and digests the information that you have left behind. It flys, and graces the land with it's natural fertilizer. The grass grows with your knowledge.

    A cow eats the grass, and absorbs your thoughts. The cow is then led into a slaughterhouse, where it is killed and made into all kinds of beef products. Some of which are sent to a pregnant mother who is eating for two. She eats the cow, digests this food, and then passes some nutrients and free thought onto her child.

    This child now has some of the knowledge you did.

    I think this affects us today, but I will get into it more depending on the reaction to this initial post. I've considered this a lot, and it also... Explains things, like people with similar personalities, people with... Other problems, etc etc.

    Just think about it.

    You, the originator of knowlege, die. You decompose. A worm eats your dirt. It gets eaten by bird, bird shits your knowledge. A cow eats your knowledge, and it is passed on to a mother and her unborn child.

    Just don't knock this yet.

    -

    Hmm... If knowledge is just stored in the brain, then what about self-discovery? Conclusions that we come to on our own and then the application of said conclusions? It seems like more than just stored data in a gray CPU, simply because we think and are capable of such things. Thinking of the brain as some kind of utilitarian unit that is only there to store information.

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    Well, here, it gets a tic complicated... Genetics have a rather large hand in the shaping of the body and mind, although these protiens surely add to it as well.

    So, several worms eat the earth that is rich in your knowledge. But the worm keeps some, the bird keeps some, the cow keeps some, and the mother doesn't get the maximum of you out of the dirt. She gets the maximum of someone else. There's 30% you, and 70% Andy Kaufman. Or, if you're still the dominant part, you're just the dominant part by a smidge. 10% you, 9,8,7,6,5,5,4,3,2% other people or some such. That would mean you're the dominant personality, but the capacity for knowledge from your protiens would be smaller, thus creating a less intelligent form of you, I suppose.

    I dunno, that part might be a tad complicated. But, if there are equal shares of certain personalities and knowledge retainers, who is to say that it doesn't create a chemical imbalance that makes the recipient mentally unstable due to the equal shares of mind and personality?

    Once again, just thinking out loud.

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    Input?

    Mal
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  • serenadethis
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2005
    • 17

    #2
    A very "mother nature" -ish way to look at things . But you forgot one major thing, most thoughts are produced by electrical impulses, not by the matter that makes up your brain. Also, i dont think the knowlege would be passed on, the protines that the worms comsume would go through their digestive track and be broken down even more to be used as fuel, the protine is not used to create brain cells until the actual newborn. Even then the protine would have been broken down and recycled so many times, that even (if true) the knowlege contained inside would be destroyed.


    These are just my opinions, im not trying to demean anything of yours, just throwing some of my ideas on the subject out there. Anythings possible, people thought Leonardo Da Vinci was crazy when he came up with the idea for a helicopter i mean really, what human can fly anyway?
    \"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else.\" - Leonardo da Vinci

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    • Tasuke
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2003
      • 1671

      #3
      not to be a downer, but aren't personality and all other facts and
      things that are stored in your brain just electrical impulses triggering
      certain things. So when you die and the brain stops won't the imulses
      just flow through the body like electric impulses do?

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      • serenadethis
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2005
        • 17

        #4
        As I said in my previous post.
        \"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else.\" - Leonardo da Vinci

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        • MalReynolds
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          • Sep 2003
          • 6571

          #5
          Yes, but is memory just a series of electrical impulses, or synapses firing at random? There is some storage going on in the brain, even if it's not much. It's just another way to look at things, I suppose.

          Mal
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          • QreepyBORIS
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2003
            • 7454

            #6
            Memory is chemical storage (or electrical, hell if I remember), that can easily be rewritten and corrupted.

            Like a floppy disk.

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            • MalReynolds
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              • Sep 2003
              • 6571

              #7
              But a floppy disk can be read by many different formats... Like a computer drive... Or... A... computer drive...

              I dunno, I'm tired. Is there any credo that my theory could have?

              Mal
              "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

              "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


              My new novel:

              Maledictions: The Offering.

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              • serenadethis
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2005
                • 17

                #8
                Originally posted by QreepyBORIS
                Memory is chemical storage (or electrical, hell if I remember), that can easily be rewritten and corrupted.

                Like a floppy disk.

                Damn them floppy disks and their chemical storage.
                \"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else.\" - Leonardo da Vinci

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                • QreepyBORIS
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 7454

                  #9
                  You know what I mean. It was a metaphor. Floppy disks use magnetic storage. But it is easily rewritten or corrupted.

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                  • MalReynolds
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 6571

                    #10
                    Not to derail the thread or anything, but... I wasn't getting much of a response in the Critical Thinking Forum, except for 2 people that found this theory to be very interesting and the such. I just wanted some more input on it from the... uh... Less than critical thinkers?

                    Mal
                    "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

                    "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


                    My new novel:

                    Maledictions: The Offering.

                    Now in Paperback!

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                    • serenadethis
                      FFR Player
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 17

                      #11
                      Well I wouldn't call myself a non-critical thinker, I've just always attributed personality and knowlege to DNA from the mother and father. Knowlege is aquired through learning, seeing and failure (sometimes success too), and the amount a person wants to learn also comes from the combination of adenine, thymine, cytosine, guanine bases within the dna strands.

                      I guess it could be theoretically correct, those very a+t c+g bases could come from your decomposing brain, but then again it could come from your ass too, in that case, those little thirdgraders would be right with the term "butthead". Also, not every decayed brain would go into a human, it could end up building a new oak tree and staying there for hundreds of years. So as you said, the percentages of decayed human brain particles could help build a newborn (could even build the arms and legs). I think even if this was the case, the percent of actual human brain matter making it into a newborns brain matter, would be so miniscule that it wouldnt have any effect on personality/knowlage.

                      So really a newborns made up of about 1.8954674% your leg muscle, .0005% your brain matter, 2.3% fauna dna, and about 90% andy kauffman.


                      But it would be pretty wild if i was all wrong and we had a bunch of little half-einsteins walking around..

                      (btw that 90% is a joke)

                      And the whole floppy disk thing i was joking around about too.


                      [EDIT]: Oh also, I've never really gotten into biophysical theory, im more into astro/universo(?).... theory
                      \"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else.\" - Leonardo da Vinci

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                      • MalReynolds
                        CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 6571

                        #12
                        Yeah, if anyone would have responded in the Critical Thinking forum, I would have brought up the tree/other living thing scenario as well, although I do rather like the fact that your brain may help structure the life of another. Or your body or something.

                        Mal
                        "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

                        "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


                        My new novel:

                        Maledictions: The Offering.

                        Now in Paperback!

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                        • suicidalmuskrat
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 739

                          #13
                          heh. Yeah'd it'd be cool. It could make for a neat short film. But there is obviously no credo to it. If I smashed up a hard drive and ate it, would I 'absord' the knowledge? More or less, when we're born are brains are about the same (male and female differences aside)...they consist of all the same things. Basically, if what you're saying is true, wouldn't all cannibals be schitzophrenic (sic)?
                          I'll trade you this delicious doorstop for your crummy old danish.
                          Done, and done.

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                          • Feuergeist
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                            • Aug 2003
                            • 869

                            #14
                            That isn't how the brain works.



                            Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
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