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  • HansSky
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2003
    • 1925

    #1

    Practical parenting, anyone?

    When I was taking the HSPAs(Retarded and incredibly easy standardized test in NJ, if you don't pass, you don't pass high school), we had to do read an article and answer some questions. About 10 multiple choice, and 2 open-ended.

    The article was about a man who believes that the best way to raise your child is to give him a "healthy dose of Vitamin N". I wrote down his site which was on the bottom of the page, and finally got around to looking at it tonight. If you don't get the "Vitamin N" part, check out the site, and form your own opinion. Personally, I think he's an asshole.

    John is America’s leading expert on traditional biblical parenting. Get practical, faith-based parenting advice through his books, consultations, and events.


    And if you don't feel like browsing or checking out his stuff, at least go here, to his wonderful "Bill of Rights":

    John is America’s leading expert on traditional biblical parenting. Get practical, faith-based parenting advice through his books, consultations, and events.
    hi
  • alainbryden
    Seen your member
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2003
    • 2873

    #2
    RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

    You failed the test didn't you :P
    ~NEIGH

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    • zildjian133
      FFR Player
      • May 2003
      • 1138

      #3
      RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

      I read about how he said "All learning is about trail and error" and funny enough that took me back to eighth and seventh grade math class where I did ABSOLUTELY nothing except laugh my ass off all day long in class and fall asleep and learn the formula's while my geek ass friend was constantly working his ass off in that class, I had like a 95 average at the end of the year... I did no "trail and error" and from looking at the rest of the site, I agree he is an asshole.

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      • Spazzbite
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jan 2003
        • 2181

        #4
        RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

        OK yeah complete asshole this man is. The "Because I said so." thing is complete bullshit, because it's what parent's say when they can't think of a legitamite excuse.

        Originally posted by Quicker
        shades don't break unless you break them.

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        • alainbryden
          Seen your member
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          • Dec 2003
          • 2873

          #5
          RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

          If I were his kid I would slap him and show him who's who. nuff said.
          ~NEIGH

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          • The_Q
            FFR Player
            • May 2004
            • 4391

            #6
            RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

            Who can say "idiot?"

            Who can define "Rosemond?"

            It's great to tell your kids no but it's not good to teach them it's ok to lack reason or live without critical thinking skills. I was brought up so that if "because I said so" was pulled out I just wouldn't obey the order given. This is why the military won't take me.

            I completely forgot to hit the what they need vs. what they want thing. You don't need a new box of pencils for the school year. It's easier to write with them, but you don't need them. Refer to Maslow's Pyramid to differentiate between needs and wants.

            Q

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            • stretchypanda
              shock me shock me
              • Sep 2004
              • 4123

              #7
              RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

              That "Bill of Rights" actually seems like a pretty solid (very, very basic) guideline for parenting. He does not suggest beating children, or making them go without necessities, or (let's be extreme) giving children drugs or alcohol. Sure, he seems like a smartass, but he's putting things in very simple terms and that is exciting because we all know that a very small percentage of people know how to raise a child into a wellbehaved individual.

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              • Kefit
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 1517

                #8
                This all looks pretty solid to me.

                The "because I said so" reasoning that parents use is not so much an excuse because they have no reason, but an excuse because their child won't understand the reasoning being used.


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                • stretchypanda
                  shock me shock me
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 4123

                  #9
                  Yay for child psychology.

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                  • Neonatrias
                    MAЯISA
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 919

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kefit
                    The "because I said so" reasoning that parents use is not so much an excuse because they have no reason, but an excuse because their child won't understand the reasoning being used.
                    My mother still uses that crap on me and I'm 17 years old. o_O;;

                    If a kid doesn't get it, so what? A reason that's not understood is better than no reason at all in my mind.

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                    • tillboy
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 10

                      #11
                      I got good advice for dealing with your parents...

                      "Shut up. And deal with it on your own."

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                      • B3NJ1
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 266

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

                        Originally posted by zildjian133
                        I read about how he said "All learning is about trail and error" and funny enough that took me back to eighth and seventh grade math class where I did ABSOLUTELY nothing except laugh my ass off all day long in class and fall asleep and learn the formula's while my geek ass friend was constantly working his ass off in that class, I had like a 95 average at the end of the year... I did no "trail and error" and from looking at the rest of the site, I agree he is an asshole.
                        Sounds like my math class. He "corrects" the classwork with you and then looks over it to see you did it. And its all right to "correct" the paper *writes in answers*. course i did fail the last quiz =/

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                        • jewpinthethird
                          (The Fat's Sabobah)
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 11711

                          #13
                          RE: Re: RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

                          Sounds like a good parenting plan to me.

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                          • Brainmaster07
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2891

                            #14
                            Re: RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

                            Originally posted by B3NJ1
                            Originally posted by zildjian133
                            I read about how he said "All learning is about trail and error" and funny enough that took me back to eighth and seventh grade math class where I did ABSOLUTELY nothing except laugh my ass off all day long in class and fall asleep and learn the formula's while my geek ass friend was constantly working his ass off in that class, I had like a 95 average at the end of the year... I did no "trail and error" and from looking at the rest of the site, I agree he is an asshole.
                            Sounds like my math class. He "corrects" the classwork with you and then looks over it to see you did it. And its all right to "correct" the paper *writes in answers*. course i did fail the last quiz =/
                            Our teacher doesn't even collect homework or check if you did it. The grade is 30% quizes and 70% tests . (Pre-AP calc btw)

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                            • psychic25
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 367

                              #15
                              RE: Re: RE: Practical parenting, anyone?

                              The "because I said so" reasoning fails after the child reaches the age where he is old enough to follow a chain of logic. If everyone followed this, guess what everyone would be? They would just be grunts. No initiative or will to think at all. All of these are "how to force your kid to be the model child".

                              In fact, I think that most of the things in the "Bill of Rights" fails after the kid hits the logic age. Before that, though... those rules actually seem like they might work.

                              His last one is... ugh.

                              Originally posted by Rosemond
                              Every child has the right to parents who love him/her enough to make sure he/she enjoys all of the above rights.
                              What child would enjoy these rights? :P That's something they're going to look back on later in life and think, "Wow, my parent was SUPER STRICT, and he turned me into a heartless, soulless machine, but I know he still loves me. He cared enough about me to take the time to twist my childhood into something monstrous and horrible."

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