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  • kadef
    FFR Player
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • May 2020
    • 57

    #1

    kadef's Pattern Trainer

    Hey guys, I made a thing! Let me know what you think, especially if you think I should add or fix something. Otherwise, I hope it helps!

    EDIT: This is version 1.1!


    Changes:

    - Fixed bug that caused some notes to disappear/move the wrong way
    - Added smooth scrolling animation between notes (which can still be turned off)
    - Improved pattern algorithm to steer away from lengthy OHTs
    - Added bar and arrow skins
    - Added support for arrow key keybinds
    Last edited by kadef; 03-2-2021, 11:52 AM.
  • ositzxz369
    Venetian Snares stepper
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2008
    • 535

    #2
    Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

    y arent my arrows moving? how do i know if my keybinds been updated?
    Last edited by ositzxz369; 02-19-2021, 10:44 AM.

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    • Akaunei
      FFR Veteran
      • Jul 2020
      • 148

      #3
      Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

      this is more like SV training

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      • kadef
        FFR Player
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • May 2020
        • 57

        #4
        Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

        Originally posted by ositzxz369
        y arent my arrows moving? how do i know if my keybinds been updated?
        Keybinds should show up in top left corner, and are updated automatically once you finish typing them. Let me know if you’re still having trouble!

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        • Matthia
          🍍Pineapple Man🍍
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Nov 2017
          • 511

          #5
          Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

          This is a really neat thing! What would be nice if you can make a smooth transitioning animation between each keypress to the next row so it makes it a lot easier to read



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          • SubaruPoptart
            da kyo~
            • Nov 2015
            • 736

            #6
            Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

            Originally posted by Matthia
            This is a really neat thing! What would be nice if you can make a smooth transitioning animation between each keypress to the next row so it makes it a lot easier to read
            Yeah that's pretty much my only comment; I like the different settings for different patterns too. I think being able to set the BPM for something like a smooth-scroll would work pretty well but if people like the static advancement how it is rn you could toggle between the two.
            Last edited by SubaruPoptart; 02-19-2021, 01:12 PM.






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            • Trumpet63
              Mostly Ignored
              • Mar 2011
              • 471

              #7
              Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

              Very cool
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              • kadef
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                FFR Music Producer
                • May 2020
                • 57

                #8
                Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                Thanks guys! The constant scrolling obviously makes sense, but I wanted the player to practice at their own pace. I might try to find some way to create a scroll transition between notes that isn't jarring (figuring out how fast to make the transition will be tricky).

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                • SubaruPoptart
                  da kyo~
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 736

                  #9
                  Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                  Real quick: The patterns kinda bug out when you pick "stream".

                  The 4th column kinda creeps up the screen until it becomes invisible.

                  EDIT: 7-key stream works fine, it's 4-key stream that does this

                  Last edited by SubaruPoptart; 02-19-2021, 03:36 PM.






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                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



                  Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                  Oh God it's Subaru
                  Originally posted by Deamerai
                  damnit subaru
                  Originally posted by FreezinIce
                  You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                  Originally posted by the sun fan
                  if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                  Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                  wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                  Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                  • Akaunei
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 148

                    #10
                    Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                    Originally posted by ElectricZap9
                    I'd like to see someone complain that the notes don't scroll and the controls freeze for every boo.

                    i already did that

                    Originally posted by Akaunei
                    this is more like SV training

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                    • kadef
                      FFR Player
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                      FFR Music Producer
                      • May 2020
                      • 57

                      #11
                      Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                      Originally posted by SubaruPoptart
                      Real quick: The patterns kinda bug out when you pick "stream".

                      The 4th column kinda creeps up the screen until it becomes invisible.

                      EDIT: 7-key stream works fine, it's 4-key stream that does this

                      Weird - so the 4th column goes up while the others go down? Does this also happen for you on upscroll? Thanks for the picture!

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                      • kadef
                        FFR Player
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                        • May 2020
                        • 57

                        #12
                        Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                        Originally posted by ElectricZap9
                        I'd like to see someone complain that the notes don't scroll and the controls freeze for every boo.
                        This project was inspired by qqwref’s trainer from 2010, which works similarly (Waiting for user to play the right note). I’m thinking about adding a scrolling animation in between notes, but I don’t want to use constant BPM scrolling, because I’d rather have users naturally play at/find their own pace.

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                        • SubaruPoptart
                          da kyo~
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 736

                          #13
                          Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                          Originally posted by kadef
                          Weird - so the 4th column goes up while the others go down? Does this also happen for you on upscroll? Thanks for the picture!
                          I haven't tested it on upscroll but I figured out after refreshing that this starts to happen when you switch back to 4-key after switching to 7-key.


                          Trying to replicate it I've found ANOTHER thing. I don't know how I did this one but on the 7-key stream the middle key is straight up gone.

                          My guess is something messes up when switching between 7-key and 4-key anything.






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                          Originally posted by the sun fan
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                          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                          Oh God it's Subaru
                          Originally posted by Deamerai
                          damnit subaru
                          Originally posted by FreezinIce
                          You can lead Subaru to water, but you can't make him vote at EOD
                          Originally posted by the sun fan
                          if cocoa flips town, n2 vig should shoot zenith obv
                          Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                          wolf gurls exist awooo owo ¿furries? owo awoo


                          Originally posted by dAnceguy117

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                          • katanaeyegaming
                            #FearTheWyvern
                            • Aug 2019
                            • 344

                            #14
                            Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                            oh so you finally got around to releasing it. I know you mentioned it on discord.

                            good stuff man
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                            • gold stinger
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6428

                              #15
                              Re: kadef's Pattern Trainer

                              Originally posted by kadef
                              Thanks guys! The constant scrolling obviously makes sense, but I wanted the player to practice at their own pace. I might try to find some way to create a scroll transition between notes that isn't jarring (figuring out how fast to make the transition will be tricky).
                              Maybe an alternative mode where you can set a BPM and optional 4th note assist tick? That way, it can keep scrolling, and won't be as jarring to read or play.

                              Also, would love an option that attempts to steer away from one-handed trills. It comes up in patterning every now and again, but not as often as a simulator makes it out to be.
                              Last edited by gold stinger; 02-20-2021, 08:00 AM.
                              Originally posted by YoshL
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