WAP

[mi40]

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thank you for entertaining my rants, cardi b i have no actual opinion of but my previous housemate blasted cardi b all the time at 0500 AM right before i got up for the stock market so i'm inclined to dislike their music.

[EtienneSM]

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thank you for entertaining my rants, cardi b i have no actual opinion of but my previous housemate blasted cardi b all the time at 0500 AM right before i got up for the stock market so i'm inclined to dislike their music.

That's a pretty valid reason tbh

[mi40]

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That's a pretty valid reason tbh

yeah it sucks. thankfully i have my own place now so i can now be woken up by not music at 0500 but the fears of tim cook or elon musk tweeting something absolutely bonkers and ruining my portfolio in 3 seconds instead.

[j-rodd123]

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Not a fan of it personally, I agree with the comment that it was boring. I also strooooooongly dislike Cardi B because that’s totally relevant

[trumaestro]

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Top 10 Music Videos You Can Smell

Feel like watching this should come with a penicillin prescription

[DaBackpack]

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all I hear in this thread is "waah me no like pussy stank ��"

[mi40]

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all I hear in this thread is "waah me no like pussy stank ��"

people love the smell of money more than pussy stank. that's a guarantee.

[Gradiant]

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all I hear in this thread is "waah me no like pussy stank ��"

We've already got Cupcakke for that though

[mi40]

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We've already got Cupcakke for that though

nobody can beat cupcakke on the dirtyness

[sweet2kill210]

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Unpopular opinion here but I love it and think she has undeniably good flow. While I like songs to have meaning and depth to them there are also times where I just wanna turn the brain off and listen to something that flows well or something that gets me pumped. Sometimes I want Mozart, other times I want goreshit. Sometimes I want Mos Def or MF Doom, other times I want "trash" like Cardi B. :P

[Mahou]

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For today’s standards, it’s a hit. Its the age where you’ll hear more songs where women are glorifying using their body to obtain the bag (I.e only fans).

[mellonxcollie]

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I was so fucking confused at first cause I saw posts about it before I realized it was a song, I thought it was a new term for white people like WASPs but slightly different somehow??

anyways personally I don't care for the song but sometimes songs can take a while to grow on me, so maybe i'll give it another listen once the hype dies down. never gonna complain about another bad bitch anthem being put into the world tho

[mi40]

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non productive member of society anthem

[Funnygurl555]

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I was so fucking confused at first cause I saw posts about it before I realized it was a song, I thought it was a new term for white people like WASPs but slightly different somehow??

same

anyways time to give my hot(tm) take

so the song is significant not for the content but the controversy surrounding it.

as etienne already mentioned, sexually explicit songs are nothing new, when sung by men or women. but there's two things here that stand out: the song is more explicit than other sexual songs by contemporary artists (e.g. anaconda by nicki minaj, whistle by flo rida (ew)) and the song and the accompanying music video portray women as in charge of their sexuality and dominant over their partners (who we'd assume are men). music today is indeed very sexist, and women-- especially black women-- are often objectified.

we then have the music video which o n l y includes women, predominately black of all shades. an exception is kylie jenner, which i think is an interesting inclusion. she is very much white but her and her family have been accused over the years of co-opting black culture for money and fame. some think she shouldn't have been in the video at all, as her presence is detracting from the attention that cardi b and megan thee stallion should have instead. i don't know what to think of it, really. we also see normani at the end of the video who is talented af and let's us know it, but she's spoken out about racism in the music industry before (edit: and has not seen the meteoric rise in her career that she deserves). her music video "motivation" was also criticized as sexual when, really, it was pretty modest compared to other music videos when we think about it. why is that?

when people decry this song, they call it trashy. specifically, trashy. that's not the wording we use when a male singer makes a sexually explicit song, or when a woman is sexualized in a male singer's music video... or when a white or white passing woman makes a sexually explicit music video. i think this points towards the intersection of racism and sexism in both the music industry and in society as a whole.

and that's why i love this song. it's also a b o p

[DaBackpack]

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I think funnygurl hit the nail on the head there

Women are constantly fucking objectified in the music industry, and in the "entertainment" business, period. So you might say, "what's so special about this song, it's still objectifying women"

I'd reply--- "for who?"

Historically the objectification of women has always been in the service of the male audience, a phenomenon called the "male gaze." Sex sells, you mighta heard about that. Sells to who? To men, duh.

Objectification in and of itself isn't strictly a bad thing. It's not bad to want to feel sexy, attractive, or desirable, even if those desires are a result of sexist societal conditioning. It's also not "regressive" for women to be open about sexual experiences and preferences, even though Western society has this inherently contradictory desire for women to be sex objects but also to... not have sex.

If a song utilizes objectification but also comes directly from the female experience, who the fuck am I to criticize that as a form of expression, of reclamation, of self-love? The remedy to "men objectify women" doesn't have to be to literally police ALL raunchy objectification and self-expression; if anything, that reinforces the male domination of the sexual woman.

To reiterate, the problem with sexual objectification is that men use it to belittle the personhood of women. "Women are a prize", "women will want you if you buy XYZ", "you are entitled to one (1) woman to have sex with." That is clearly wrong. But to deny women the ability to talk candidly about sex is only doing the sexist power structures a favor.