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[bmah]

Re: CCQ

I'm reminded of Travis Flesher of all people. Kid just wanted to know how trains work, made a CT thread, I gave him the answer.
within seconds: thread deleted; user banned.

Hmm, I'm curious about what went on in that situation, even though I wasn't around. I might not be correct on this, but maybe he was trolling?

Which brings me to another point: on the occasion that people make troll threads (just for kicks or whatever other reason), it can possibly reduce the trust amongst everyone else. Suddenly it becomes difficult to differentiate an inocuous thread and a thread where the boy cries wolf. Almost like a "made you look" sort of situation, you know what I mean? Then all sorts of things can go wrong when a non-troll thread is deleted, or misunderstandings can occur if a real troll thread is deleted and other users aren't aware of the poster's history. It honestly makes moderation that much harder, because mods are still held to the same standards when false threads litter the forum like a mine field, and anyone would have a difficult time picking out the real thing or trying to explain the situation to other people. :/

Whatever happened in that thread you mentioned I'm not sure, but it could've easily fallen into the situation I explained above. But yeah, it was probably better to let that thread continue and let observations happen for a while longer before a decision could be made. (Usually though, it's not too hard to tell if someone's dicking around.)

[Mourningfall]

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Yeah I feel ya. I'm beginning to see why there's not more lenience towards low quality threads, too.
If I were an admin (or a mod), I'd want this shit on my resume, and I'd want it to look respectable to my employer. having "Latest forum posts" on the homepage and having 80% of those being low quality, no quality discussions would probably not look good on your abilities to moderate or administrate. So there's that.

There's also solid arguments for convenience and tidiness, but they're pre self exanatory.

TRD raises a good point about the birthday subforum though, pretty redundant when we have a comment section on our profiles and a very visible "Today's Birthdays" at the bottom of the index, if any subforum were to be abolished, I'd probably pick that over the small talk subforum

[bmah]

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I'll be really honest about this: I feel that I was voted as best mod/admin in the past probably because I moderated quite little in the past, and people liked that lack of interference. But there comes a time when it turns into a situation where people are just taking advantage of you and you are effectively a likable but ineffective mod. So now when I actually attempt to put my foot down, this stuff happens. Admittedly this wasn't all that surprising, but I'd appreciate if others could see my point of view. Really though, thanks for the understanding, Mourn.

[devonin]

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To the point that chitchat ought to be for literally whatever, because there are subforums for more structured discussion: Chit-chat as a forum is just a catchall for legitimate threads that don't belong anywhere else.

Discussing stuff in the news in a Not-CT way, general talking about stuff like the "I bought a car" thread and whatnot. Heck, "post pictures of cats" and "post pictures of dogs" are both threads that were left running with no issues.

Posting a thread called "yo" with the first post "sup" is not a thread, it's not a discussion. There's a place for random thoughts. It's called "Random Thoughts" on your profile. You can have random conversations with other people back and forth on profile walls.

Threads in chit-chat don't need to be about a particular subject, but they need to be about -something- and that's basically all that is asked for.

Believe me, there's discussion happening about where that thin line is between "We only want good content" and "We want any content because activity is very important" and I don't think anybody is actually moderating with too heavy a hand, or without any forethought.

[Charu]

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I feel this thread was made directly because of what happened that night when some of us on FFR decided to be silly. The topic about what makes "chit-chat" isn't going to solve the problem that I'm assuming this thread is trying to address.

"Here we go!"

I've already talked to one of ya mods about it and I did not disapprove what you did! I just don't agree with in which you went about it. Very much you should mod threads if they have super low content if they're not in TGB, IE: My thread you folks deleted in that bunch. However, the thing you guys decided to ultimately do is lock and delete ALL the threads that were in mockery of one of the other.

The other threads had different content within them. It might've NOT been the best content, or rather the most engaging and or absurd content of things that will never happen and are there to incite some jokes, but still content.

So then the next question is "If there's multiple threads being made in a short time spam, should I stop the technically correct threads as I'm modding the super low content ones?"

Well... that just means you need to amend the rules to disallow a sudden influx of threads if you mods truly feel that FFR should not deal with threads that are trying to make some laughs and have everyone join the fun.

PS: I'm totally in support for having TGB visible again and without the silly keycard crud. Never understood why it was done in the first place.

PPS: Nevermind, just remembered why as I thought back further. It was because of that shitty Garbage Bin meta where you had to go through rites of passage or something. It was incredibly dumb and I remember some users actually getting site wide banned because of it. It's like ??????

PPPS: They don't do that anymore, so it's safe.

[devonin]

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Actually several of the lets say "technically correct" threads -were- left open/reopened/undeleted at the same time all of that happened. They were locked as a mass-action to stop the spam long enough to figure out what was going on, and then several were reopened/put back so there's that.

A bunch of activity is fine, a bunch of spammy nonsense isn't activity, it's spammy nonsense.

[Charu]

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Misunderstood your post.

[thesunfan]

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Posting a thread called "yo" with the first post "sup" is not a thread, it's not a discussion. There's a place for random thoughts. It's called "Random Thoughts" on your profile. You can have random conversations with other people back and forth on profile walls.

Already talked a bit about this to you, so this is more just at the idea of Random Thoughts in general, but I would say that having "random conversations with other people back and forth on profile walls" is not a thing that people do anymore. No one cares about random thoughts anymore, no one goes out of their way to read them, they are essentially dead.

I agree that your case of this thread with "yo" being the title and "sup" being the OP is not something that is ok, but the reason of "Just make a random thought for this, you'll get a similar experience to one of making a thread" just isn't true anymore.

[bmah]

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Already talked a bit about this to you, so this is more just at the idea of Random Thoughts in general, but I would say that having "random conversations with other people back and forth on profile walls" is not a thing that people do anymore. No one cares about random thoughts anymore, no one goes out of their way to read them, they are essentially dead.

I agree that your case of this thread with "yo" being the title and "sup" being the OP is not something that is ok, but the reason of "Just make a random thought for this, you'll get a similar experience to one of making a thread" just isn't true anymore.

Getting a similar experience for a random thought may not exactly be true for the most part anymore; however, I don't think that changing trends should effectively change the way forum rules operate. These days, most people do those sort of random conversations on Skype or Discord, or even other social media platforms.

[aperson]

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No matter how much people grow up bitching and moaning about forum rules will never change