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  • devonin
    Very Grave Indeed
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2004
    • 10120

    #16
    Re: Unauthorized gambling

    When someone chooses to make a private issue public, they invite public reaction to their situation.

    This should have been a PM to a forum admin and never posted on the forums.

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    • Charu
      Snivy! Dohoho!
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2006
      • 6161

      #17
      Re: Unauthorized gambling

      I bet you guys never freaked out about having something go missing that was worthless in value.


      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
      Had a very shiny nose
      And if you ever saw it
      You could even say it glows

      All of the other Snivies
      Used to laugh and call him names
      They never let poor Charu
      Join in any Snivy games

      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


      Originally posted by Vendetta21
      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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      • dAnceguy117
        new hand moves = dab
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2002
        • 10097

        #18
        Re: Unauthorized gambling

        Originally posted by Charu
        worthless in value
        that's subjective.

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        • devonin
          Very Grave Indeed
          Event Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2004
          • 10120

          #19
          Re: Unauthorized gambling

          Originally posted by Charu
          I bet you guys never freaked out about having something go missing that was worthless in value.
          Sure I have, but I don't' go out in public and demand that everybody pay attention to my issue when none of them can do a damn thing about it.

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          • Charu
            Snivy! Dohoho!
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 6161

            #20
            Re: Unauthorized gambling

            I meant in terms of general consensus and not personal value, doho.


            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
            Had a very shiny nose
            And if you ever saw it
            You could even say it glows

            All of the other Snivies
            Used to laugh and call him names
            They never let poor Charu
            Join in any Snivy games

            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


            Originally posted by Vendetta21
            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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            • omega_grunt666
              Nescio quid faciam
              • Jul 2004
              • 894

              #21
              Re: Unauthorized gambling

              Originally posted by DotKritic
              I would love to opt-out of the poor decisions I made in my life, but that isn't going to happen.
              If the credits are the only thing that you care about, then I suggest quitting the game. Just like Izzy said, "...they're fake credits and nothing that matters." Move on.
              If this had happened when the only way to transfer credits was traceable through the transaction log, I could report an illegitimate transfer and it could be investigated. As it stands the burden of proof is on my shoulders and there isn't a damn thing I can do about it, I know it isn't a hell of a lot considering people have millions. But its still something I've earned over years of playing, its has a value beyond what I can trade it for. It partly represents the Tournaments I've placed in for prizes, spon cons, thousands of songs played. Just because something is worthless to you doesn't mean its worthless to everyone. And it doesn't make stealing them any less wrong or against the rules.

              By the same measure anything in this game is worthless, you can get a score again, you can earn more grand total. But I would bet if any of those got wiped from you through a vulnerability in the website, I would be reading a similar thread.

              The transaction log exists to track things like this so that theft/exploits can be fixed. The gambling hall has no equivalent and a history of being exploited. Why would an opt-out be an issue. As it stands, I have no clue who accessed my account or where my credits went. And on top of it, I get accused of gambling it away and crying about it.


              Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about the credits, it the principal. Someone fucked with my shit and I want it dealt with. I can get more credits, but I don't want this to happen ever again, to me or anyone else. Its an easy fix.
              Last edited by omega_grunt666; 02-24-2014, 11:16 AM.

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              • Wafles
                FFR Player
                • Feb 2013
                • 1988

                #22
                Re: Unauthorized gambling

                If you want it dealt with then PM an admin and stop acting like we should feel bad for you for not keeping your own account secure.

                http://smleaderboards.net/profile/view/Wafles

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                • Charu
                  Snivy! Dohoho!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6161

                  #23
                  Re: Unauthorized gambling

                  Originally posted by omega_grunt666
                  By the same measure anything in this game is worthless, you can get a score again, you can earn more grand total. But I would bet if any of those got wiped from you through a vulnerability in the website, I would be reading a similar thread.
                  I tell ya, playing through those long easy rock songs are brutal. I actually would be kind of annoyed that I would have to do those songs again if things got wiped!


                  Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                  Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                  Had a very shiny nose
                  And if you ever saw it
                  You could even say it glows

                  All of the other Snivies
                  Used to laugh and call him names
                  They never let poor Charu
                  Join in any Snivy games

                  (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                  • devonin
                    Very Grave Indeed
                    Event Staff
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 10120

                    #24
                    Re: Unauthorized gambling

                    Originally posted by omega_grunt666
                    Its an easy fix.
                    Yes it is. You changed your password, and presumably checked your computer for viruses or keyloggers.

                    Fixed.

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                    • omega_grunt666
                      Nescio quid faciam
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 894

                      #25
                      Re: Unauthorized gambling

                      Originally posted by Wafles
                      If you want it dealt with then PM an admin and stop acting like we should feel bad for you for not keeping your own account secure.
                      Shit doesn't get talked about, shit doesn't get done. Simple as that.

                      There isn't exactly one person in charge of problems like this, and I'm not going to go around kicking doors until I find the right person. You opted to read the thread, if you didn't like its contents you are encouraged to move on and ignore it.

                      I don't need a lecture on account security, I can count on two fingers the number of times my online accounts have been compromised in the last 15 years (The other time it was confirmed the site had been compromised) I'm not worried about the websites security considering the nature of the attack, but I'm still bothered by the vulnerability of the gambling hall to be used as a tool to attack people without consequence.

                      If I was on your account, and transferred all your credits to myself, I would be very surprised if you didn't do anything about it.
                      Last edited by omega_grunt666; 02-24-2014, 11:28 AM.

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6161

                        #26
                        Re: Unauthorized gambling

                        Truth be told, the only time I would notice is if suddenly I couldn't access the Secret genre and if there was a song in Purchase I need to buy as I consciously always look at the credit count when buying.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • justin_ator
                          🥓<strong><span style="col
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 7648

                          #27
                          Re: Unauthorized gambling

                          You guys are insufferable dicks sometimes

                          I'm not frustrated about the issue or the fact that Omega lost his credits, I'm frustrated at the fact that nearly everyone is attacking him. He noticed an issue (while it's a damn worthless little problem), and he's making a suggestion to better an aspect of the site. If we can make key cards to TGB why can't we give an option to disable the transaction of credits off of an account as a whole? Who does it hurt? And while I realize this isn't a top priority issue because it was possibly something caused by him accidentally allowing his password to be retrieved, that doesn't make the issue and suggestion any less valid.

                          /endrant

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                          • devonin
                            Very Grave Indeed
                            Event Staff
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 10120

                            #28
                            Re: Unauthorized gambling

                            Because if there's a way to disable it, there needs to be a way to enable it again if you change your mind. And if there's a way to enable it again, somebody with access to your account and re-enable it exactly as easily as you can.

                            And if you can't ever re-enable it, then the staff will have to start dealing with additional requests from people who can't transfer credits to handle running contests or tournament prize distribution for them etc etc.

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                            • DotKritic
                              Forum User
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 2974

                              #29
                              Re: Unauthorized gambling

                              Originally posted by justin_ator
                              You guys are insufferable dicks sometimes

                              I'm not frustrated about the issue or the fact that Omega lost his credits, I'm frustrated at the fact that nearly everyone is attacking him. He noticed an issue (while it's a damn worthless little problem), and he's making a suggestion to better an aspect of the site. If we can make key cards to TGB why can't we give an option to disable the transaction of credits off of an account as a whole? Who does it hurt? And while I realize this isn't a top priority issue because it was possibly somethin g caused by him accidentally allowing his password to be retrieved, that doesn't make the issue and suggestion any less valid.

                              /endrant
                              What's more important? Credits or rank? If the answer is the former, move on. I remember when it was all about being ranked #1. What happened to that?

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                              • Charu
                                Snivy! Dohoho!
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 6161

                                #30
                                Re: Unauthorized gambling

                                Originally posted by DotKritic
                                What's more important? Credits or rank? If the answer is the former, move on. I remember when it was all about being ranked #1. What happened to that?
                                Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                                that's subjective.
                                ii


                                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                                Had a very shiny nose
                                And if you ever saw it
                                You could even say it glows

                                All of the other Snivies
                                Used to laugh and call him names
                                They never let poor Charu
                                Join in any Snivy games

                                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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