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  • moches
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2005
    • 3996

    #1

    To This Day



    as somebody who spent much of elementary and part of middle school marginalized and hurt, I teared up watching this. incredibly visceral video: even if you're not interested in seeing a PSA about bullying and cruelty, I'd suggest watching this just because it's absolutely beautifully made--think slam poetry crossed with Tim Burton's style.

    just thought I'd share this with everybody and get some thoughts. has anybody here ever been part of an effort to combat bullying? where do we even begin with a problem this big? does this video resonate with you?
  • kmay
    Don't forget me
    • Jan 2007
    • 6511

    #2
    Re: To This Day

    you never really know how bad it was till you look back at it.

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    • Frank Munoz
      Muein
      • Nov 2007
      • 2047

      #3
      Re: To This Day

      Pretty damn intense..

      the only way I made it past the bullying imo was by luck.
      I did have a strong determination to be something great, and I guess that's what kept me going, but there was such a thin line to becoming insane.
      Last edited by Frank Munoz; 02-21-2013, 12:05 AM.
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      • SKG_Scintill
        Spun a twirly fruitcake,
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Feb 2009
        • 3875

        #4
        Re: To This Day

        I went through mid-school with some struggle like everyone else in his or her own little way. Got over the bullying and name-calling. But it doesn't matter how far in life you are, something else will always compensate for what is no longer a problem.
        Bullying becomes stress, name-calling becomes your superior or being the superior yourself. You analyze and become aware of all your flaws and try to correct them one by one, in the end trying to become a "civilized" person; someone to fit in with the masses.
        Aren't we ever how we want us to be? Are we cycling through a loop in which we try to adapt ourselves to our environment? Or are we doing this to ourselves?
        Perhaps... perhaps we all want to be equally unique.

        P.S: Olol I love making these posts at times





        Originally posted by bluguerilla
        So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
        ___
        . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
        . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
        .

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        • Xiz
          TWG Chaos
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Feb 2012
          • 3399

          #5
          Re: To This Day

          I cried... holy fuck.

          I went from being the bullied kid in elementary school to the popular kid in high-school. I've seen it all. I've lost friends due to sticking up for those being picked on. Only because I know how it feels...


          (Moches ~ Great great find. Thank you)

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          • PaperclipGames
            Mrow~
            • May 2008
            • 648

            #6
            Re: To This Day

            Given the replies, I don't think I want to watch this video. All I'll say is that I've long been a victim and only got out as I rolled into university, and that bullying as a whole is one of those traits of the human race that I simply don't understand, and don't even want to understand. Anyone who is going through being bullied (regardless of its severity) has my support.

            Unfortuntately it's more or less impossible to combat the issue.
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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #7
              Re: To This Day

              For some reason I couldn't get emotional about this. I thought it was going to be a funny story and it kind of amused me at first and then it got boring with what I assume was supposed to be empathetic tragedy.

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              • dAnceguy117
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                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2002
                • 10097

                #8
                Re: To This Day

                I was lucky to have been sent to a small private school by my parents. the worst cases of bullying I witnessed were akin to picking on a little brother or sister. physical altercations were essentially nonexistent.

                in the (distant) future, I would like to teach at a high school. I hope that I could impart some wisdom on a group of kids and make them think twice about preying upon their peers.

                will watch the video and edit in my response when I get the chance.

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                • Poison-
                  Nope
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3772

                  #9
                  Re: To This Day

                  I was never bullied in school, but I did fight a kid because I saw him bullying someone (I didn't know the kid getting bullied, either)

                  I guess I'm lucky for always being "popular", but I will never be a bystander.

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                  • Spenner
                    Forum User
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 2403

                    #10
                    Re: To This Day

                    Originally posted by Izzy
                    For some reason I couldn't get emotional about this. I thought it was going to be a funny story and it kind of amused me at first and then it got boring with what I assume was supposed to be empathetic tragedy.
                    He's just telling you to be your own moderator of what you choose to believe, when you're called something you don't have to allow it to have validity.

                    I thought this was very good, put together extremely well, and the speaker has chosen vivid imagery with his words. Excellent and motivating as well.

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                    • Ohaider
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 2893

                      #11
                      Re: To This Day

                      Originally posted by Izzy
                      For some reason I couldn't get emotional about this. I thought it was going to be a funny story and it kind of amused me at first and then it got boring with what I assume was supposed to be empathetic tragedy.
                      Kinda this
                      Not like depression/bullying/judgement/etc is a new thing haha
                      Respect the good intentions of the vid producer though

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                      • Sweet Angel
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                        • Apr 2012
                        • 620

                        #12
                        Re: To This Day

                        This was very moving... I remember in school I wasn't picked on directly, but kids were always whispering things about me being weird or too quiet, it got to the point where I hated going to class or made up some excuse to miss school all the time. When I did go however, I use to help out other kids that might have been picked on and tried to help make them feel better knowing what they were going through. They were all really nice too. Its a shame some people have to act so harsh, whether it be mental or physical abuse, in the end its all the same :/

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                        • moches
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 3996

                          #13
                          Re: To This Day

                          replying to everythin' one by one.

                          Originally posted by PaperclipGames
                          Given the replies, I don't think I want to watch this video. All I'll say is that I've long been a victim and only got out as I rolled into university, and that bullying as a whole is one of those traits of the human race that I simply don't understand, and don't even want to understand. Anyone who is going through being bullied (regardless of its severity) has my support.

                          Unfortuntately it's more or less impossible to combat the issue.
                          all the power to you, man.

                          I think the basic problem stems from a lack of compassion. this is a really interesting story my friend posted a few days ago on Facebook:

                          Marina Abramović is best known for her performance pieces, in which she tries to explore what is possible for an artist to do in the name of art. Her best known piece was the recent “The Artist Is Present,” in which she sat motionless for 736.5 hours over the course of three months, inviting visitors to sit opposite her and make eye contact for as long as they wanted. So many people began spontaneously crying across from her that blogs and Facebook groups were set up for those people.

                          Her bravest piece, however, is my favorite. This piece was primarily a trust exercise, in which she told viewers she would not move for six hours no matter what they did to her. She placed 72 objects one could use in pleasing or destructive ways, ranging from flowers and a feather boa to a knife and a loaded pistol, on a table near her and invited the viewers to use them on her however they wanted.

                          Initially, Abramović said, viewers were peaceful and timid, but it escalated to violence quickly. “The experience I learned was that … if you leave decision to the public, you can be killed… I felt really violated: they cut my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the public. Everyone ran away, escaping an actual confrontation.”

                          This piece revealed something terrible about humanity, similar to what Philip Zimbardo’s Stanford Prison Experiment or Stanley Milgram’s Obedience Experiment, both of which also proved how readily people will harm one another under unusual circumstances.

                          This performance showed just how easy it is to dehumanize a person who doesn’t fight back, and is particularly powerful because it defies what we think we know about ourselves. I’m certain the no one reading this believes the people around him/her capable of doing such things to another human being, but this performance proves otherwise.


                          but from personal experience, getting people to put themselves in your shoes goes a long way. sadly, a lot of teens struggle to find empathy; I find myself being unnecessarily cruel sometimes and I'm trying to change.

                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          For some reason I couldn't get emotional about this. I thought it was going to be a funny story and it kind of amused me at first and then it got boring with what I assume was supposed to be empathetic tragedy.
                          Originally posted by Spenner
                          He's just telling you to be your own moderator of what you choose to believe, when you're called something you don't have to allow it to have validity.

                          I thought this was very good, put together extremely well, and the speaker has chosen vivid imagery with his words. Excellent and motivating as well.
                          That's the message I got from this, too.

                          Originally posted by Ohaider
                          Kinda this
                          Not like depression/bullying/judgement/etc is a new thing haha
                          Respect the good intentions of the vid producer though
                          definitely not new, but definitely something we can work to change too.

                          Originally posted by Sweet Angel
                          This was very moving... I remember in school I wasn't picked on directly, but kids were always whispering things about me being weird or too quiet, it got to the point where I hated going to class or made up some excuse to miss school all the time. When I did go however, I use to help out other kids that might have been picked on and tried to help make them feel better knowing what they were going through. They were all really nice too. Its a shame some people have to act so harsh, whether it be mental or physical abuse, in the end its all the same :/
                          I'm sorry you had to go through that. as a (technical) foreigner living in Korea, I feel similarly sometimes.

                          Originally posted by kmay
                          you never really know how bad it was till you look back at it.
                          very true.

                          Originally posted by Frank Munoz
                          Pretty damn intense..

                          the only way I made it past the bullying imo was by luck.
                          I did have a string determination to be something great, and I guess that's what kept me going, but there was such a thin line to becoming insane.
                          awwww <3 I think that's what the video gets at, too. it sucks, but it's okay because we're still here, and that's proof that what people told us we were isn't true.

                          Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                          I went through mid-school with some struggle like everyone else in his or her own little way. Got over the bullying and name-calling. But it doesn't matter how far in life you are, something else will always compensate for what is no longer a problem.
                          Bullying becomes stress, name-calling becomes your superior or being the superior yourself. You analyze and become aware of all your flaws and try to correct them one by one, in the end trying to become a "civilized" person; someone to fit in with the masses.
                          Aren't we ever how we want us to be? Are we cycling through a loop in which we try to adapt ourselves to our environment? Or are we doing this to ourselves?
                          Perhaps... perhaps we all want to be equally unique.

                          P.S: Olol I love making these posts at times
                          bullying is a problem at any level. I'd actually say the real problem is the culture of cruelty we live in.

                          Originally posted by Xiz
                          I cried... holy fuck.

                          I went from being the bullied kid in elementary school to the popular kid in high-school. I've seen it all. I've lost friends due to sticking up for those being picked on. Only because I know how it feels...


                          (Moches ~ Great great find. Thank you)
                          I'm glad to hear that you powered through it (strangely, all of my bullying issues were in elementary/middle, too). it's great that you're sticking up for friends, too. all the power to you.

                          Originally posted by dAnceguy117
                          I was lucky to have been sent to a small private school by my parents. the worst cases of bullying I witnessed were akin to picking on a little brother or sister. physical altercations were essentially nonexistent.

                          in the (distant) future, I would like to teach at a high school. I hope that I could impart some wisdom on a group of kids and make them think twice about preying upon their peers.

                          will watch the video and edit in my response when I get the chance.
                          so inspiring !!!

                          Originally posted by Poison-
                          I was never bullied in school, but I did fight a kid because I saw him bullying someone (I didn't know the kid getting bullied, either)

                          I guess I'm lucky for always being "popular", but I will never be a bystander.
                          awareness is key in any case

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                          • DossarLX ODI
                            Batch Manager
                            Game Manager
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 14989

                            #14
                            Re: To This Day

                            What this video briefly brought up was parental bullying as well. The "get over it" bullshit and abuse from parents makes the situation even worse.

                            I'm able to get along with others, but relating to this video's title: to this day, I have a deep anger towards my family that made me lie to myself and destroy my self esteem. And nobody in my family is going to apologize, and any "compliments" mean essentially nothing at this point considering the damage that's already been done.
                            Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 02-20-2013, 10:09 PM.
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                            oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                            • samurai7694
                              바보
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4639

                              #15
                              Re: To This Day

                              I will say this video was deep and I enjoyed watching through it. I don't wish to fully share my life story on here though but it wasn't easy going through school, I'll put it that way.

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