FF7

[Laharl]

To tell you the turth, if anybody abides the policies on how you evaluate games, no game would be more than mediocre or alright. Great things are built upon earlier greater things. Shakespeares's material was mostly based on other stories and myths. Also, I think Aeris getting killed was spontaneous and saddening, only clue you ever gte is when Sephiroth like 2 minutes b4 she dies, says "She has to go" Or something along those lines. I think also Sephiroth is the most evil villain I know. I also disagree that FF8 sucked and I haven't played FF9 that much to discuss, but I at this part where the rat is like the prince of this sandcastle land in the middle of a sandstorm and I can't beat the boss cuz I'm too lazy. FF10 I played for like 4 minutes. Impressive initially.

Oh, I well enough understand that everything is taken from an older tale. That's a given. What I mean is that it's entirely uninspired. There is a difference between telling a story and telling a story WELL. For example, FF9 uses the standard, "kidnap princess, finds out she's a tomboy, fall in love" story, but it's done in such a delightfully fun manner, that the story is engaging and interesting.

Nadoll: "If you hated it so much why did you play it for 70 hours??
Everyone knows you could easily beat it under 60 or 50."

Why did I beat it? Hell if I know. Boredom, really. I didn't have my grubby hands on Final Fantasy Tactics yet.

"And graphics do help with the game. Would you play a game with 10 pixels, in which you were the red blob trying to stop the green blob from destroying all the blue blobs. (I suppose if you inserted another plot it would be absolutely riviting right?)"

There is a big difference between saying graphics help and graphics make the game. I can't say that any of the games I've really, really, really liked had state-of-the-art graphics. Often times, companies focus SOOOO much on getting their product to have a nice, shiny graphics engine, they screw over gameplay, plot, and translation quality. If even half the time that went in to making FF7's CG scenes went into a decent translation or more fluid gameplay, it'd have been a tremendous game. FF7 completely reeks of wasted potential.

[RobbyZero]

Ok dudes,the only reason you might not like FF7 is cause your just plain stupid or you've finally realised KICK ASS RPG'S like itself are too much for you to handle. FF7 is the greatest game,the characters,the storyline and love everything about it is fucking amazing what is there not to like?!?!?! i mean seriously come on stop dissing it so bad when you know even if you dont like the game it's still fucking amazing. It's by far the greatest RPG ive ever played nex to Secret Of Mana for SNES

[Moogy]

I take it Laharl and I are the only ones on this website that don't like FF7, eh?

[RobbyZero]

Possibly more people but if you dont like it,too bad for you...Just dont be dissing it so badly..just have to say meh i dont like it simple as that..

and then everyone wwont have to argue and flame you....

[Brainmaster07]

Ok dudes,the only reason you might not like FF7 is cause your just plain stupid or you've finally realised KICK ASS RPG'S like itself are too much for you to handle. FF7 is the greatest game,the characters,the storyline and love everything about it is #$#ing amazing what is there not to like?!?!?! i mean seriously come on stop dissing it so bad when you know even if you dont like the game it's still #$#ing amazing. It's by far the greatest RPG ive ever played nex to Secret Of Mana for SNES

I thought Secret of Mana sucked... but I do agree with FF7 being awesome. But as far as best RPGs go... Grandia II wins by a long shot.

[Anonymous]

Ok dudes,the only reason you might not like FF7 is cause your just plain stupid or you've finally realised KICK ASS RPG'S like itself are too much for you to handle. FF7 is the greatest game,the characters,the storyline and love everything about it is #$#ing amazing what is there not to like?!?!?! i mean seriously come on stop dissing it so bad when you know even if you dont like the game it's still #$#ing amazing. It's by far the greatest RPG ive ever played nex to Secret Of Mana for SNES

I'm gonna fuckin kill you for saying I'm plain stupid. I hate FF7. I dont know why, but something tells me to hate it. I also hate that Cloud gets raped. RAPED! RAPED AT A HOTEL! RAPE SHOULD NOT BE IN A GAME. ESPECIAllY AN RPG. CURSE SQUARESOFT. Now I've played Kick ass RPGs, so you can kiss my ass.

[Draco89123]

You guys are entitled to your own opinion on games and other various stuff, I just wish that if you dislike, there is no need to post it on the forum that it sucks, and if you do, provide legitamate justification unlike "cloud gets ass raped" (which he doesn't), "people who try to support ff7 suck at explaining"(not everybody), etc... I could really care less if you didn't like it, I found it extremely amusing and well worth it, doesn't matter whether any of you guys found it fun.

[RobbyZero]

Dude since when did he get raped I know the game inside and out man get a life and actually fucken play it and stop taking other peoples hateful opinions into your own...

[Laharl]

Hahaha.

Poor fanboy got his favorite game legitamately dissed so he has to resort to swearing. Aww, isn't that special.

Seriously, you can be CIVIL about disagreeing with someone. I think I used the word ignorant once, but that wasn't meant as a derogatory term, just describing a lack of knowledge in a subject.

[RobbyZero]

Wtf is up with you man? It's clearly not my favorite game geez..you dont even bother to read anything you just barely even breeze through and start mouthing off at it ....that's pretty sad,and trying to use your increased vocabulary trying to make it look far beyond my comprehenssion it's not going to work man...

[Diabolicus]

I grow tired of the graphic obseesion.

[jewpinthethird]

Ha.

Ha!

HA!

That's funny, man.

Obviously, you never played even the predecessor to FF7, FF6. Cloud and Terra have a lot in common. Both can't remember their past, both were soldiers for an evil empire (Shinra and the empire have a lot of ties, as well, btw), and both had latent powers that are unlocked later in the game. Going back to the Empire and Shinra, they both are trying to use science to create super soldiers (replace FF6's esper extraction with FF7's Mako infusions, and there you go) as well as that they are both run by evil people that get whacked by en even eviler person and the one good, non-corrupt guy dies.

Sephiroth, while not drawing from FF6, draws from THE single most heavily clichéd stereotype of a villain in all of the world, let alone Japan. I can think of countless numbers of books and anime shows where the villain is the "cold, silent badass" that has not a single flaw in the world, and they go out to kill all of humanity because they feel it's corrupt or that by detsroying people, they are doing the humans a favor.

Saying that every game drew ideas from FF7 is simply ignorant (no offence). Go read classical literature, mythologies, biblical stories, etc etc etc. Just about every story in existance can have it's roots traced back to the classics, man.

Okay, no, reading books is for sqaures. I dont like you anymore because you are right.

[Laharl]

Wtf is up with you man? It's clearly not my favorite game geez..you dont even bother to read anything you just barely even breeze through and start mouthing off at it ....that's pretty sad,and trying to use your increased vocabulary trying to make it look far beyond my comprehenssion it's not going to work man...

I've read through every post in this quite a few number of times. Don't go making assumptions. Ever hear the saying, "Don't assume; you'll make an ass out of u and me"?

Pardon me for thinking it was your favorite game. I'm getting cussed at and having people brand me as an arrogant little snot, and you have a Cloud avatar. Besides, sometimes, I like to overexaggerate things. I will say "favorite game" and just mean one of, not necessarily "the" favorite. You get my drift?

@ Jewpin: Glad to see you still having a good sense of humor about all this. :thumbsup:

[RobbyZero]

Well I liked that picture and it was the only one I had on my computer within the size range and I chose it to be my avatar. Whether I favorise FF7 or not it would have still been my Av.

[neo_sporin]

i greatly enjoyed FF7, beat it all the way through 3 times, and played the beginning through several more, ill play all the way to the world map without saving, then turn it off. the game was great, inspiring and unique, not a single person here has mentioned the WEAPONs, those were cool and how ruby and emerald were (almost) impossible unless you are 99 99 99 and have all the right materia. As for carbon copy of 6, you guys are fetchin straws with the similarities, and as for 8 being sucky, it wasnt, its just everyones expectations were to high coming off of 7. then after "sucky"8 people brought their standards down for 9 and saw it for what it was, mediocre. though i have a question for the carbon copy complainer. do you think 9 was a copy of 1? i mean, you had your black and red mages, your 4 (forget the names) element type guys, and other things. but it mostly has to due with if you like RPGs or not, some people do sme people dont. just like sports games, some people like em, some dont