Beginner pack project for keyboard play

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  • Elekton
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2016
    • 173

    #31
    Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
    Not the .dwi files no we need those

    j/k the game still autogens them right?
    i can't say for the ingame editor but both ddream and arrowvortex default to .sm

    also i don't think dwi files play well with etterna, for example your miracle is dead shows up as -1 notes with no playtime

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    • Wh1teh
      FFR Player
      • May 2016
      • 123

      #32
      Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

      Going to adjust the tentative difficulty curve a bit, because making a chart under 3 Etterna rating is quite unreasonable currently.

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      • MixMasterLar
        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2006
        • 5224

        #33
        Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

        Originally posted by Wh1teh
        Going to adjust the tentative difficulty curve a bit, because making a chart under 3 Etterna rating is quite unreasonable currently.
        Working on that actually.

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        • User1942406

          #34
          Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

          I believe charts under 3 is very doable, it just requires specific types of music and that type of music may not be suitable for absolute beginners getting into SM (I'm talking about ambience, drone, stuff similar tot hat style, that is long slow tones)

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          • Wh1teh
            FFR Player
            • May 2016
            • 123

            #35
            Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

            Gonna start figuring out real ratings next week hopefully, so we don't have to rely entirely on Etterna.

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            • Wh1teh
              FFR Player
              • May 2016
              • 123

              #36
              Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

              Kinda overwhelmed by the amount of submissions at the moment lmao, this thing really blew up.
              Idk if I should increase the pack size to 150 or 200 songs, or if that would be too much.
              Anyway, with the current speed of things the goal of 100 songs will be completed in a week maybe. No current estimation on how long the post production and chart fixing will take.

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              • SKG_Scintill
                Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2009
                • 3875

                #37
                Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                we apologize for stepping a file not 2 days before the deadline
                regular scheduling will return in the near future
                we're sorry for the inconvenience





                Originally posted by bluguerilla
                So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
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                . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
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                • XelNya
                  [Nobody liked that.]
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3368

                  #38
                  Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                  Originally posted by DourGent
                  I believe charts under 3 is very doable, it just requires specific types of music and that type of music may not be suitable for absolute beginners getting into SM (I'm talking about ambience, drone, stuff similar tot hat style, that is long slow tones)
                  any song can be made into an easy chart

                  even intense beeps and bloops stuff
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                  • Wh1teh
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2016
                    • 123

                    #39
                    Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                    Okay so I'm gonna increase the song limit to 150 and set the deadline to 21st jan, might move it back if it seems like we can't reach 150 in time but I really doubt it.

                    Also the pack is going to be named Easy Songs Megapack, and we currently have no banner for it.
                    Last edited by Wh1teh; 01-7-2018, 04:59 AM.

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5224

                      #40
                      Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                      I think 100 is fine, especially since the chances are good a lot of them (looking at half of mine) are too hard and can be cut. Unless you want to try an do a pretty beefy range. That's your call tho.

                      I'm with Xel in that anything can be an easy file, but I think you'd want a song that people enjoy listening to, probably one that the beginner either has already heard before or sounds like something they'd hear outside the game.


                      On that end, I've cut/edited down the following songs and have been making what I can only describe as the most understep files for them slowly as I've found the time over the last few days:

                      Golden years / Bowie
                      Loser / Beck
                      Song 2 / Blur
                      Fly Away / Lenny Kravitz
                      Heart of Glass / Blondie
                      West End Girls / Pet Shop Boys
                      Sheena is a Punk Rocker / Yeah Yeah Yeahs
                      Walk like an Egyptian / Bangles (Thanks Jojo for the edit)


                      Now Ideally, I would pick Top 40 here but the thing about that is that you never know what top 40 song will last the ages, plus I fucking hate pop music so yeah cut me some slack on this one.

                      I'd say if the hardest of these its a 3 on your little scale then I'll be impressed. while I'm trying to still have form and a pattern f or the players to recognize each of these has like 50~ steps total. For a Keyboard file that is not hard at all.

                      EDIT: This probably will be all I do aside from tweaking/fixing/working with you on these and the previous ones I sent. I think 14 songs from a single dude is enough for now. If we need more at the end we can work on it then (which would help us judge what kind of songs/files we need better anyway)

                      EDIT 2: I'll probably commission someone to do Graphics for my files, so don't worry about them. I'm selfish and think they all need to be based off of their respective source/music video so I'll make sure they get down later


                      Originally posted by SKG_Scintill
                      we apologize for stepping a file not 2 days before the deadline
                      regular scheduling will return in the near future
                      I died reading this.
                      Last edited by MixMasterLar; 01-7-2018, 11:47 AM.

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                      • Wh1teh
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2016
                        • 123

                        #41
                        Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                        I want to increase the limit so that I don't have to cut so many of the harder files, as packs such as stepping stones are something like >10 in difficulty. It's good to have some "boss songs" so that the beginners have something to work towards.
                        The newly added slots will be distributed between the easier levels.

                        E: Also Lar don't worry too much about the scale for now. Most of the files you just sent me will definitely get knocked to the cyan range later.
                        Last edited by Wh1teh; 01-7-2018, 02:59 PM.

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5224

                          #42
                          Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                          That's cool. It's whatever you feel is best.


                          Sent those other eight hopefully they are closer to what we need. Not planning to open the editor again until I hear what changes you need if any, but take your time.

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                          • XelNya
                            [Nobody liked that.]
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3368

                            #43
                            Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                            I'm with Xel in that anything can be an easy file, but I think you'd want a song that people enjoy listening to, probably one that the beginner either has already heard before or sounds like something they'd hear outside the game.
                            You know I'd disagree with this, except if you play some other modern rhythm game, you've heard the artist who did the song I charted:



                            Also as a side note: I know the google translate for 栗プリン is wrong, I found one that translates it to "night pudding" or "kuripurin" but I try to get my shit right :/

                            I'll be sending it after I play it on Friday, and I have that name as accurate as I can.
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                            • Moria
                              Sylphid
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 533

                              #44
                              Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                              @Xel, hey nice generic k/j/a/bae pop, m2u is cool though



                              Last edited by Moria; 01-11-2018, 05:26 AM.

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                              • XelNya
                                [Nobody liked that.]
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 3368

                                #45
                                Re: Beginner pack project for keyboard play

                                Originally posted by Moria
                                @Xel, hey nice generic kpop, m2u is cool though



                                I already charted Magnolia though with 4 charts in one of the stepping stones packs? XD

                                (I also made an x-mod chart, but holy fuck it's awful glad I never released it.)
                                Last edited by XelNya; 01-11-2018, 05:26 AM.
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