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  • Dvaerak7Korgo
    魂氣 혼기 (Wandering Spirit)
    • Jan 2007
    • 93

    #1

    Inconsistent BPM...HALP

    When it comes to songs that weren't recorded with a click track, do you prefer making slight changes in bpm? Or would you rather have the entire chart conform to an average bpm?

    What if the song's bpm fluctuates a lot? (e.g. The Games We Played)
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    I like to make slight changes in BPM to keep it stable.
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    I like a fixed bpm and use pretty colored notes.
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    I DON FUX WIT INCONSISTENT BPM FAM
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  • rushyrulz
    Digital Dancing!
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 12985

    #2
    Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

    lol don't use fixed BPM on songs that have BPM changes, it's not a good time.


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    • MinaciousGrace
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2007
      • 4278

      #3
      Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

      for me i like to start with bpm 1 and every beat increase the bpm by 1 until the end of the song but that is just my personally preference

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      • Dvaerak7Korgo
        魂氣 혼기 (Wandering Spirit)
        • Jan 2007
        • 93

        #4
        Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

        Originally posted by rushyrulz
        lol don't use fixed BPM on songs that have BPM changes, it's not a good time.
        It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

        Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.

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        • choof
          Banned
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Nov 2013
          • 8563

          #5
          Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

          i just chart stuff that's a constant bpm but still has stuff that's unquantized

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          • Wayward Vagabond
            Confirmed Heartbreaker
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jul 2012
            • 5866

            #6
            Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

            Originally posted by Dvaerak7Korgo
            It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

            Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.
            I stepped more contemporary jazz. Also most people play with cmods so bpm changes aren't noticed. Just sync the song like a man you pussy.

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            • ilikexd
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2006
              • 3207

              #7
              Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

              Originally posted by Dvaerak7Korgo
              When it comes to songs that weren't recorded with a click track, do you prefer making slight changes in bpm? Or would you rather have the entire chart conform to an average bpm?
              put every beat manually to waveform peaks

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              • Dvaerak7Korgo
                魂氣 혼기 (Wandering Spirit)
                • Jan 2007
                • 93

                #8
                Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                I stepped more contemporary jazz. Also most people play with cmods so bpm changes aren't noticed. Just sync the song like a man you pussy.
                FINE, DAD. >:'(

                I really like your charts. Good point about cmods. I almost forgot about those.

                Originally posted by ilikexd
                put every beat manually to waveform peaks
                Done. This ain't so bad.

                Thanks for the feedback y'all.

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                • gold stinger
                  Signature Extraordinare~~
                  Event Staff
                  Game Manager
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6428

                  #9
                  Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                  I use a mixture of bpm changes & playing with cmods, sometimes finding songs that have inconsistent bpms can be a lot of fun
                  Originally posted by YoshL
                  butts.



                  - Tosh 2014






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                  • Jagakon
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 31

                    #10
                    Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                    Originally posted by Dvaerak7Korgo
                    It does seem easier to make a chart with bpm changes, but what about playing someone else's chart?

                    Also, do you know any simfiles/packs out there of jazz songs? Not like KgZ or OSTER Project type stuff. More like John Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Buddy Rich, Art Blakey, Michael Brecker.
                    I'm in the middle of stepping solos from Herbie Hancock, Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Bud Powell, Ahmad Jamal, and some other jazz works that I come across. These take a long af time to step so I might just finish and release them as a pack one of these days. What kinda stuff are you working on?

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                    • Wayward Vagabond
                      Confirmed Heartbreaker
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 5866

                      #11
                      Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                      Originally posted by Dvaerak7Korgo
                      FINE, DAD. >:'(

                      I really like your charts. Good point about cmods. I almost forgot about those.



                      Done. This ain't so bad.

                      Thanks for the feedback y'all.
                      Thanks :')

                      Also definitely don't do what ilikexd said

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                      • Dvaerak7Korgo
                        魂氣 혼기 (Wandering Spirit)
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 93

                        #12
                        Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                        Originally posted by Jagakon
                        I'm in the middle of stepping solos from Herbie Hancock, Art Tatum, Thelonious Monk, Bud Powell, Ahmad Jamal, and some other jazz works that I come across. These take a long af time to step so I might just finish and release them as a pack one of these days. What kinda stuff are you working on?
                        OH SHIT. I'm following you now fam.
                        I just started Coltrane's Giant Steps to get a feel for this jazz thing. Hopefully, I can move onto Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers, Wayne Shorter, Mingus, Max Roach. Also...(psst don't tell anyone)...Kamasi's Le Ebin...sssshhhhhhhhh <.< >.>

                        Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                        Thanks :')

                        Also definitely don't do what ilikexd said
                        I just slowed down the waveform a little and then hit B in ddream every 4 beats, then used Grow to fill the beats in between. It was easier than I thought, and way better than what I was trying to do earlier, which was to start with an average bpm for the whole song, then adjust from there.

                        I have to admit, though, this is taking a lot of time. I'm constantly thinking: why am I doing this when I should be practicing my saxophone? .-.

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                        • dAnceguy117
                          new hand moves = dab
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 10097

                          #13
                          Re: Inconsistent BPM...HALP

                          I made (or tried to make) simfiles for several years and really never learned how to sync anything that wasn't static

                          better tools and resources and more info available now though, gl gl

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