Learning Doubles on Stepmania

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  • ddrmaniacaaa
    FFR Veteran
    • Apr 2007
    • 126

    #1

    Learning Doubles on Stepmania

    I know there are a couple of you who have mastered doubles play on Stepmania. I am just getting started. I have incorperated an 8 finger spread setup to try and neutralize one finger per arrow.

    It goes something like this

    Left pad
    left-w
    down-e
    up-r
    right- space bar

    Right pad
    left- right arrow key
    down-numpad 7
    up- numpad 8
    right- numpad 9

    digits i am using go in order from left ring finger to right ring finger (ring,middle, index, thumb is on space bar, right thumb on right arrow, index, middle, ring)

    Has anyone had success with a similar setup or can tell me a better one? so far I can fc light 1 and 2s, but have only been playing for 2 days? did you find that you had to relearn everything, and does this affect your singles play at all? thanks.
  • ddrxero64
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2008
    • 790

    #2
    Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

    LOL OMG I was so confused LOL

    I thought this was a thread on learning doubles on pad. There are more patterns to learn and habits to get used to to. Alas, it's a keyboard thread.

    I've never played doubles on keyboard, sorry bro. I think it's just one handed but harder.

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    • Superfreak04
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Jan 2007
      • 2407

      #3
      Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

      Double is really hard, and I don't think there are so many charts. If you master this, you'll truly be an SM god. Solo will be easy for you then most likely.

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      • Xiaounlimited
        Eaguru
        • Jul 2005
        • 2832

        #4
        Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

        nobody steps 8k son
        Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

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        • ddrmaniacaaa
          FFR Veteran
          • Apr 2007
          • 126

          #5
          Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

          Originally posted by Superfreak04
          Double is really hard, and I don't think there are so many charts. If you master this, you'll truly be an SM god. Solo will be easy for you then most likely.
          Only have the official files from ddr, no super hard files yet. I played solo for a while way back and thought it was easy. Just wasnt sure how to implement 8 key, not sure whether my thumbs or pinkies would like to be added. After this i might try 10 fingerd PIU doubles. That would be the ultimate.

          I have a slight edge over most because i also play piano.

          also, Xia, do you have any proof, or was that a joke post? I have seen Izzy do it, as well as others on youtube. It would be harder to develop muscle memory usuing less keys.

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          • foxfire667
            The FFRchiver
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jun 2009
            • 2169

            #6
            Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

            For a short amount of time I tried doubles, and it is DEFINITELY a difficult thing to get used to, or for that matter, even play remotely close to decently.

            Not all keyboards are the same, and the setup I used might not respond for you, but I did: ASDF / HJKL with the index through pinky on each hand. I was able to play some easier standard charts from Izzy's 8-arrowed pack when I played, but even still it was pretty difficult to manage.

            I would try both your pinky and your thumb and see what is better for you, I personally think the thumb would be harder to coordinate compared to the pinky for more complex files, but it might be different for you.
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            • ddr_f4n
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2005
              • 3807

              #7
              Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

              We need more 8 keys, it can easily be used for 7-key IIDX mode
              Out Now!


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              • ddrmaniacaaa
                FFR Veteran
                • Apr 2007
                • 126

                #8
                Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                Originally posted by foxfire667
                For a short amount of time I tried doubles, and it is DEFINITELY a difficult thing to get used to, or for that matter, even play remotely close to decently.

                Not all keyboards are the same, and the setup I used might not respond for you, but I did: ASDF / HJKL with the index through pinky on each hand. I was able to play some easier standard charts from Izzy's 8-arrowed pack when I played, but even still it was pretty difficult to manage.

                I would try both your pinky and your thumb and see what is better for you, I personally think the thumb would be harder to coordinate compared to the pinky for more complex files, but it might be different for you.
                I know what you mean man, im traveling into uncharted territories here. I think my keyboard might be a little smaller than yours cause, hjkl kinda arches my wrists in a weird way (you know, the carpel tunnel.) With the setup im usuing my hands are nicely spaced out so the thumbs do not actually seem like that much of an issue. Could you link me to the pack you are discussing, i am not sure how difficult it is in reference to anything else.

                also, speed wise right off the bat I can tell my thumbs can hammer faster then my pinkies (retarded appendige.) Not much difference right now, just preparing for when i take over the world.
                Last edited by ddrmaniacaaa; 03-10-2011, 04:35 PM.

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                • foxfire667
                  The FFRchiver
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2169

                  #9
                  Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                  Originally posted by ddrmaniacaaa
                  I know what you mean man, im traveling into uncharted territories here. I think my keyboard might be a little smaller than yours cause, hjkl kinda arches my wrists in a weird way (you know, the carpel tunnel.) With the setup im usuing my hands are nicely spaced out so the thumbs do not actually seem like that much of an issue. Could you link me to the pack you are discussing, i am not sure how difficult it is in reference to anything else.

                  also, speed wise right off the bat I can tell my thumbs can hammer faster then my pinkies (retarded appendige.) Not much difference right now, just preparing for when i take over the world.
                  Izzy's 8-arrowed Pack, the songs I'm talking about are really easy in my opinion compared to someone who could actually be GOOD at 8-key. I got like A-AA on them most of the time on light so judge for yourself. I only played doubles maybe for a few weeks if that, before I focused way more on 4-key and started back into 6-key again.

                  I generally hammer with my arm and not my wrists, so maybe that is why I can use my pinky versus a thumb.
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                  • AsphyxZero
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1823

                    #10
                    Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                    Originally posted by ddrmaniacaaa
                    I played solo for a while way back and thought it was easy.
                    Play harder files.

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                    • ddrmaniacaaa
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 126

                      #11
                      Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                      Originally posted by AsphyxZero
                      Play harder files.
                      Your extremely helpful, thanks for posting.

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                      • AsphyxZero
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1823

                        #12
                        Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                        That was a serious post, btw. Try downloading the BCMPs if you think solo is too easy.

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                        • DJMAYYYNE
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 609

                          #13
                          Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania



                          HOLY SHIT WHAT THE **** O___________O

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                          • ddrmaniacaaa
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 126

                            #14
                            Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                            Originally posted by DJMAYYYNE


                            HOLY SHIT WHAT THE **** O___________O
                            Quoted for Truth

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                            • Jousway
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 865

                              #15
                              Re: Learning Doubles on Stepmania

                              um I know people that play piu double thats 10 freaking keys dawg
                              Its not a bug its a FEATURE!



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