Stepping help / First Stepfile

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • RaptorHaysewus
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2008
    • 250

    #1

    Stepping help / First Stepfile

    Hey guys, I'm starting out stepping Again, many years ago I used to do it, but I never released them. Don't worry, they weren't that good .

    But now I'm actually thinking about doing it seriously. I started on a song last night and...Well...It ended up in me throwing a tantrum and closing the window, losing all my work...-ahem-

    Basically, is there an easy way I don't know about, but do you really have to go in stepmania's song editor and go

    play from current beat to end

    memorize beats

    place note

    play from current beat to end

    memorize beats again

    place higher "th" note to sync

    play from current beat to end

    SUCCESS, YOU HAVE FINISHED 2 SECONDS OF YOUR SONG! ONLY 6 MINUTES LEFT!

    I'm doing ~IDOLA~ The Strange Fruits from Phantasy Star Online Episode 3, btw. And it is a good 6m long.

    Anyway, if this is the easiest way, then I guess I could just work with it.
    Congadulation
  • Patashu
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2006
    • 8609

    #2
    Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

    make sure that you set the bpm and the beat 0 offset (ie how many seconds into the song the very first beat is) before doing anything else. refer to F1 for the key presses to do this, if you can't figure it out use a program to find the bpm (like mixmeister bpm analyser) and if you still can't figure it out it's probably non-constant bpm

    anyway after that, yeah you have to listen to the music then place notes down then verify that they're placed correctly. if you know the song really well tho then you'll have a good mental construct of it and you can place patterns ahead of yourself then verify they're right all at once

    no there's no faster way to do it other than making up steps, why would there be
    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
    http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
    Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
    http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

    Comment

    • -KIDTHONG-
      FFR Veteran
      • Sep 2007
      • 578

      #3
      Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

      Could you send me the song?
      Please keep your sig to the 250 x 600 size outlined in the site rules. BAM!

      Comment

      • RaptorHaysewus
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2008
        • 250

        #4
        Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile



        Thanks for the help Patashu..

        You're a great stepper, I remember playing your SM songs years ago.

        How long would you say this song would take to step, for a beginner?
        Congadulation

        Comment

        • trumaestro
          I don't get no respect
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2006
          • 1332

          #5
          Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

          holy jesus start with something shorter. you'll be more willing to finish the file if it isn't 6 minutes long. maybe step like 1/3 of that song or something. you won't get as bored, and you'll be more willing to make more files if it doesn't take you as long to make one file.

          Comment

          • RaptorHaysewus
            FFR Player
            • Nov 2008
            • 250

            #6
            Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

            hahaha, 2000BPM YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

            I'll try a shorter song, maybe a beatles song.

            Yeah I'll do Maxwell's Silver Hammer

            brb batmobile
            Congadulation

            Comment

            • Patashu
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2006
              • 8609

              #7
              Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

              a constant bpm song that doesn't have weird-ass note intervals out the ass should be like an hour per 1-2 minutes
              Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
              http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
              Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
              http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

              Comment

              • RaptorHaysewus
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2008
                • 250

                #8
                Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                Originally posted by Patashu
                a constant bpm song that doesn't have weird-ass note intervals out the ass should be like an hour per 1-2 minutes.
                Lmao sounds pretty solid.

                I'll enjoy this.

                -Updates soon

                -- UPDATE ---


                This is possibly the most annoying thing I have ever done in my entire life.

                Seriously...

                Okay so I'm trying to do a song, I change the BPM to 142.04, done, so I'm sitting there trying to sync the first 5 seconds of the song, blah. I completely lose my mind.

                More updates soon ...
                Last edited by RaptorHaysewus; 11-12-2008, 01:33 PM.
                Congadulation

                Comment

                • dore
                  caveman pornstar
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 6317

                  #9
                  Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                  Start out by editing... that way you can skip the syncing part and just worry about experimenting with charting.

                  Stepping takes a while to get used to and even longer to get good at so don't expect great results right away.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

                  Comment

                  • RaptorHaysewus
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 250

                    #10
                    Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                    Originally posted by dore
                    Start out by editing... that way you can skip the syncing part and just worry about experimenting with charting.

                    Stepping takes a while to get used to and even longer to get good at so don't expect great results right away.
                    What do you mean by "Editing" ?

                    Do you mean, getting existing stepfiles and experimenting with them?
                    Congadulation

                    Comment

                    • operationstrawbarry
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 802

                      #11
                      Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                      Originally posted by RaptorHaysewus
                      What do you mean by "Editing" ?

                      Do you mean, getting existing stepfiles and experimenting with them?
                      Good place to start. My first stepfile was Special Energy and 22Dunk

                      Comment

                      • RaptorHaysewus
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 250

                        #12
                        Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                        Originally posted by operationstrawbarry
                        Good place to start. My first stepfile was Special Energy and 22Dunk
                        Well firstly I have to actually try and find A lot of stepmania songs, so I can just flick through them and see.

                        Can't find any good sites despite me looking through loads of stickies and bemanistyle and FFR forums, I just need the packs of like 20 songs, bleh.
                        Congadulation

                        Comment

                        • Patashu
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 8609

                          #13
                          Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                          bluexoon.com has packssss
                          Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                          http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                          Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                          http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

                          Comment

                          • dore
                            caveman pornstar
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 6317

                            #14
                            Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                            Take some DDR files or something and play around with them... they won't have potential for a great file but at least you can use something simple and synced until you get the hang of the basics.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

                            Comment

                            • Patashu
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 8609

                              #15
                              Re: Stepping help / First Stepfile

                              step the drumline in DEAD END
                              Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                              http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                              Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                              http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

                              Comment

                              Working...