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  • Acidic Rage
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2008
    • 7

    #1

    How do I make a new stepfile?

    I need to know how to make a new stepfile. I was planning on making stepfiles that I and other people around the world would like. But the only problem is that I have no idea how to create the stepfiles.

    Is there a certain software you have to use for it, or can I go somewhere on the FFR website and make one?

    Please help and give any advice/information that may or may not be useful. Thanks.
  • Patashu
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Apr 2006
    • 8609

    #2
    Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

    Okay. If you're new to making simfiles, go to www.stepmania.com and download stepmania 3.9 for your platform of choice. (Not 4.0, the bugs haven't been worked out yet)

    When it's installed, go to the /Songs/ folder. Make a folder with any name, this is now your group folder. Any song must be in its own folder within a group folder, and it has to include an .mp3 or .ogg plus a .sm file (you can just make a blank text file and rename it blah.sm and it'll register). Then when you next run stepmania go to edit/sync songs and it'll show up. You can make a chart and go from there, but first you need to set the bpm and gap.
    (F1 shows controls for -everything-, btw)
    To find the bpm, I recommend the program called Mixmeister BPM Analyser. Download it and feed the song into it and it'll tell you what bpm it is at assuming the song is a constant bpm. If it's not quite a whole number, just round it, sometimes it's a bit off. Now, use F7 and F8 to adjust the bpm change at the very first beat so that it matches this number.
    Now, you need to find the beat 0 offset, how far into the song the very first beat is. Hit escape then play entire song to make it play the song (stopping a measure after the last note you've placed, so scatter a few if it ends early. Also, the first time you do this hit F8 to turn on autoplay so it hits the notes for you). Listen for where the first beat comes and go up/down and place a beat roughly where you think it is (using left and right to change the quantization and snap). Once you think you have it roughly, hit escape and go to song options. Lower the rate to 0.3x and turn assist tick on. Play the song, and listen to the clap in relation to where the first beat is. Get rid of the note and put it closer and repeat until you have it spot on (going down to the finest quantization if needed).
    Once they are exactly together, move the targets onto that note and look up at the right corner. Note what second it's at, then go back to the very beginning of the song and use F11 and F12 to adjust until the second of the very first beat equals the second of the very first beat of the song. Now, place some notes on 4ths to ensure your notes match the beat perfectly. If they do, you're good to go. Move the rate back to 1.0x and step away. Don't forget to set the song name, artist and difficulty of the chart at some point, too.
    Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
    http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
    Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
    http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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    • Professor Raine
      FFR Player
      • May 2007
      • 1560

      #3
      Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

      How come I have a feeling that he'll only follow 62% of the guide and the missing 38% is crucial to good simfile making?

      I'm just saying, that's all.


      @Acidic Rage: Read every ****ing word there, go to the simfile forums and read the stickies. Then go at making simfiles. It might take ya a year to get good, or a few months, but simfile making is a tricky art to master young padowan.


      My simfilez ----
      :

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      • Patashu
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Apr 2006
        • 8609

        #4
        Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

        That's the bare minimum you need to know to not be absolutely confounded by simfile making. And if you keep assist tick on you'll know if you misstep patterns.
        Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
        http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
        Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
        http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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        • Acidic Rage
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2008
          • 7

          #5
          Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

          There isn't a /Songs/ folder that shows up. I open the file from My Documents, and it has 7 different options.

          1. Go To StepMania web site
          2. README-FIRST
          3. StepMania Tools and Package Exporter
          4. View Machine Statistics
          5. Open StepMania Program Folder
          6. StepMania 3.9
          7. Uninstall StepMania 3.9

          Haha.

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          • Patashu
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2006
            • 8609

            #6
            Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

            After you install stepmania, go to C:\Program Files\Stepmania\Songs\.

            / is for urls \ is for directories, btw
            Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
            http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
            Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
            http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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            • Acidic Rage
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2008
              • 7

              #7
              Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

              Okay. I did that. I'm now in a spot that has one option, "Information."

              Is this where I make a group file?

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              • Patashu
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2006
                • 8609

                #8
                Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                Huh? No, you make a new folder when you're viewing \Songs\ and call it whatever you want. Don't go into any programs yet.
                Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                • Acidic Rage
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                  This isn't working.

                  I opened the folder C:\Program Files\StepMania\Songs\

                  I got to a screen with just the file "Information" on it. I then created a new folder titled "Through the Fire and Flames."

                  I then opened the folder I created, and made another folder with the same title. I opened the 2nd folder, and copy/pasted my sound track into it as "01 Through the Fire and Flames"

                  Then I saved a blank notepad.exe document as "blah.sm" as you told me to along with the song in the second folder titled "Through the Fire and Flames"

                  I went to Stepmania, and it's saying that I don't have any songs.

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                  • Acidic Rage
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                    The song isn't saved as a .mp3 or a .ogg

                    It is saved in there as a MPEG. How would I change that?

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                    • Patashu
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #11
                      Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                      Do you have extensions visible? If they aren't what you ended up making is a file blah.sm.txt
                      As for the music file, I don't know of any formats that work for sure besides .mp3 and .ogg. Isn't an mpeg a movie file?
                      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                      • Acidic Rage
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                        I'm pretty sure itis, but when I open the file all it does is open iTunes and play the track. I copy/pasted the track from iTunes into the "C:\Program Files\StepMania\Songs\StepMania File 1\Through the Fire and Flames\" folder I made. in that same foldfer is the blah.sm file.

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                        • xCANDLEx
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                          noooo your doing it wrong bud. you dont just "copy and paste" the song into the folder. 1st step. if possible drag the song to the desktop (or just download the song). if the song is in MPEG. you need to convert it to .ogg or .mp3. i suggest downloading an mp3 or ogg converter. after thats done. go to C:\Program Files\Stepmania\Program. youll see a red arrow and some thing idk what it is thats holding the arrow it says "smpackage" click on that. and youll see alot of stuff like metric changing options and stuff. on the way bottom you will see "create song" click on that and a little window pops up. then find the song you want to step. click on it once. then click open. you will get a message saying "Success. Created the song 'Songs/My Creations/whatever song' . then you open stepmania. then go to "edit/sync songs" and..... i think your good from there

                          EDIT: go to audacity.com and downloas the program to convert any song that is not in .MP3 or .ogg format
                          Last edited by xCANDLEx; 10-19-2008, 04:17 AM.

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                          • Strider11o7
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                            I'd highly suggest against using TTFATF as your first stepfile considering it's length and technical difficulty, that and it's the most overstepped song ever made, pick something from your music library that is shorter and would be easier to make.

                            If you're confused about how you create the song file yourself, here's something you can do: Go to "All Programs" in your start menu and look for Stepmania, then select "Export song packager" or something like that, i'm not sure exactly. Click "Create Song" at the bottom and pick your song. It will automatically create the file and put it in the right place, you just have to go make it from the Song Editor in the game and be sure to save it when you're done.

                            Also, i know this is a little bit late but... wrong forum >.>

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                            • jimerax
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8185

                              #15
                              Re: How do I make a new stepfile?

                              Originally posted by Strider11o7
                              Also, i know this is a little bit late but... wrong forum >.>
                              yes

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