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  • SCWolf
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    • Jun 2006
    • 1662

    #1

    Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

    Overhead is a little too big on my screen and vanilla distant is beginning to look a little cluttered so I'd like to try 50% distant to see if it hits that medium.

    Any help is appreciated
  • Gruzzly_Bear
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2015
    • 107

    #2
    Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

    Firstly, go into your _fallback theme's metrics.ini (located in your StepMania 5\Themes\_fallback folder).

    There are two ways you can add 50% distant:
    1: Change distant to 50% distant
    2: Add 50% distant and keep distant

    Method 1

    To change 100% distant to 50% distant, change the line:
    Persp,5="mod,distant;name,Distant"
    to the following:
    Persp,5="mod,50% distant;name,Distant"

    Method 2

    To add 50% distant, the steps are a lot more complex. Firstly, below the line:
    Persp,5="mod,distant;name,Distant"
    add a second line that looks like this:
    Persp,6="mod,50% distant;name,50% Distant"
    Then go a few lines up to the line that looks like this:
    Persp="5"
    and change it to
    Persp="6"
    Then go to your en.ini under StepMania 5\Themes\_fallback\Languages and under this line:
    Distant=Distant
    add the line
    50% Distant=50% Distant
    This will prevent SM5 from spewing out an error when you go to the player options.

    Hopefully this helps!
    Last edited by Gruzzly_Bear; 01-4-2016, 03:47 AM. Reason: fixing some unnecessary spaces inbetween lines of text
    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
    everyone has a different idea of what division 8 is and where the cutoffs are and what constitutes them and then people just pull numbers out of their ass and try to compare those numbers to other people pulling numbers out of their ass based on totally different metrics and then you just a self propelled self reinforcing shitfest of mass confusion so deep that people don't even realize they're confused

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    • axith
      FFR Veteran
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2007
      • 1251

      #3
      Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

      Thanks for the tutorial Gruzzly. I've been wondering about that for months now and never asked. SM feels better now. Oh, and thanks for posting the thread SCWolf.
      Last edited by axith; 01-4-2016, 01:51 PM.

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      • SCWolf
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        • Jun 2006
        • 1662

        #4
        Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

        Awesome! this worked perfectly

        Thanks a lot man

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        • Kyzentun
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2014
          • 125

          #5
          Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

          Is this where I can say that if you have to add stuff like this to the theme, it's a crap theme? Because I've had this problem beat in Consensual for almost 2 years.
          (not sure how old this screenshot is) http://i.imgur.com/TLCCmR7.jpg
          (last week) http://i.imgur.com/S67DTeu.png
          Stepmania Development in action:

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          • Gruzzly_Bear
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2015
            • 107

            #6
            Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

            Originally posted by Kyzentun
            Is this where I can say that if you have to add stuff like this to the theme, it's a crap theme? Because I've had this problem beat in Consensual for almost 2 years.
            (not sure how old this screenshot is) http://i.imgur.com/TLCCmR7.jpg
            (last week) http://i.imgur.com/S67DTeu.png
            It's the only way to add 50% distant into stepmania by default. The only theme (that I know of) that has this feature built in by default is yours. Doesn't mean that every other theme is crap. This is also not a theme-based option, the solution that I gave adds 50% distant system-wide.
            Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
            everyone has a different idea of what division 8 is and where the cutoffs are and what constitutes them and then people just pull numbers out of their ass and try to compare those numbers to other people pulling numbers out of their ass based on totally different metrics and then you just a self propelled self reinforcing shitfest of mass confusion so deep that people don't even realize they're confused

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            • aj187
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2002
              • 74

              #7
              Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

              the solution you gave will have to be redone every time you update stepmania though

              @ssc_kki on Twitter
              StepMania 5 Themes available from spinal shark collective. Might also want to check the SM5 Theme Update.

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              • Gruzzly_Bear
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2015
                • 107

                #8
                Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

                Is there any other way to add 50% distant (without needing to redo it every update)?
                Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                everyone has a different idea of what division 8 is and where the cutoffs are and what constitutes them and then people just pull numbers out of their ass and try to compare those numbers to other people pulling numbers out of their ass based on totally different metrics and then you just a self propelled self reinforcing shitfest of mass confusion so deep that people don't even realize they're confused

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                • Kyzentun
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 125

                  #9
                  Re: Looking for help adding 50% distant to SM5

                  (this post is going to be completely off topic, because the question of how to add 50% distant was already answered)

                  The default theme wasn't made with that kind of flexibility in mind, so the way Gruzzly_Bear described is the simplest practical way to add 50% distant to the default theme.
                  I think forcing people to edit themes for simple features is bad design because it's a recurring tech support problem. New people have to be told how to do it, old people have to keep reapplying their changes.
                  I suppose someone like me could make an interactive option row similar to the speed mod row that was added in beta 4. Since distant and hallway are the same mod internally (they rotate the notefield on the x axis), one option row could be used for both.
                  Incoming and space are distant and hallway with some skew added, so a second option row for skew would cover the people that want to use incoming and space.
                  Then you could do stuff like 70% tilt and -1000% skew to amuse yourself. (http://i.imgur.com/Am0sFmS.jpg) Because setting weird mods to break up the routine and take a break from serious play is fun sometimes.
                  Stepmania Development in action:

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