Controller concept development

[Arch0wl]

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I could build a controller like this in real right now if I wanted haha, got all dem shits

If you do, let us know how you did it. I'm open to feedback and ideas.

[YoshL]

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that was pretty much exactly my question lol, the differences between what i posted and what you're designing

[Kyzentun]

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I actually have a couple friends that put together a pair of 4 button controllers like that in a cabinet and put OITG on it ~4 years ago. It's pretty fun to play on, even though they separated the two sides too much for double to be easy.
It's been extremely popular at Anime Banzai every year, and gets a fair amount of play in the local arcade it's normally in.

Edit: You can't have the same controller work well for two people playing 4 button and one person playing 8 button. If the buttons are close enough for one person to play 8 buttons easily, it's too cramped for two people to facing forward. If the buttons are spaced to allow two people to fit next to each other, the gap in the middle makes one person playing 8 button awkward.

[FF_rules]

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Edit: You can't have the same controller work well for two people playing 4 button and one person playing 8 button.

Could you somehow implement a slide/filler block where you can easily remove the excess sides and spread the panels apart and then put the filler sides in the center to make a 2 player 4 button setup? It won't look as aesthetically pleasing as a solid acrylic cabinet or such but it solves the problem for people who just want to play 2 player 4 button (Basically; separate blocks for each 4 button set up that can be moved -The method of moving is up for debate; or not at all) /2cents

[Jousway]

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If you do, let us know how you did it. I'm open to feedback and ideas.

actually its quite easy seeing I have made controllers before like my solomania controller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jonyaC-vWkQ

like just make the case out of wood, thats the easy part, as for the rest

for a pcb controller just get a xin-mo http://www.xin-mo.com/?page_id=38 its cheap small, and easy to reuse, because no soldering, perfect for beginners, if you're in NL as me you can get it at a store I get all my stuff
http://www.arcadewinkel.nl/component...roller-1speler

as for the buttons get some big dome pushbuttons
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ome+Pushbutton
they arnt to expensive and are p much close to pop'n music buttons
again if you're in NL you can get them a lot cheaper at
http://www.arcadewinkel.nl/besturing...groot-verlicht

if you are wondering about the size, this is how big they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1jdjmbe1mM&feature=youtu.be&t=2m38s

so ya its basicly getting the same buttons as Pop'n music, and a cheap controller

[Ziemniax]

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What about people trying to use their thumbs to cover 4 keys at the same time? As a sprindex player, I would DEFINITELY seek a method to cover more than 2 buttons, even unconsciously. Or some things like using BOTH fingers and wrists to press the buttons.

I'd like to see a gameplay of that, but nevertheless a GREAT idea and would certainly buy it.

[Arch0wl]

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Edit: You can't have the same controller work well for two people playing 4 button and one person playing 8 button. If the buttons are close enough for one person to play 8 buttons easily, it's too cramped for two people to facing forward. If the buttons are spaced to allow two people to fit next to each other, the gap in the middle makes one person playing 8 button awkward.

You can, it just feels cramped. It'd feel similar to playing Beatmania ASC 2-player.

But yeah, I agree with the gist of what you're saying. One solution is making two 4-button controllers that can, as FF_rules mentioned, be moved apart and put together with a case. There are quite a few methods to of doing this, and I definitely don't presume to have an ideal solution. My idea is literally just a rectangle case that barely big enough to fit the two 4-arrow controllers side-by-side.

Then again, this might be unnecessary. The primary benefit of an 8-button controller with DDR spacing is that it can be used for every index chart that exists already *and* index doubles; I truly have no idea how many people play 2-player Stepmania vs. 1-player Stepmania. The vast majority I've seen is single-player.

But that said, I still would like to be able to solve this problem if possible, so anyone is more than welcome to propose solutions.

[Kyzentun]

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It really depends on the intended market. For home players, a single deck that is designed for one person playing 8 buttons is fine, because it's almost always going to be a single person.
I brought up the 2 person problem because my friends put their cabinet in an arcade, and took it to events, where there were usually two players (and a line 7-8 people deep on both sides sometimes).
Take your drawing, set it on a desk a bit higher than waist high, and have a friend try to do one side while you do the other, you'll get a better feel for the spacing that way than reading a post on a forum.

[s1rnight]

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waaa, prawnskunk and i were talking about this exact idea and he linked me this thread~ i am really excited that someone is putting thought into making this!

[SKG_Scintill]

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keyboards though