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  • Strum
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2009
    • 102

    #1

    I need some feedback/constructive criticism

    K so, this is the literately the first time I've ever tried stepping. I spent like 2-3 hours looking up how to step properly and I decided to do something relatively easy to start with.

    This was the result:


    This is still a wip and I dunno if I'm cutting it yet, I might just step the entire thing. All I'm looking for is some feedback on what I could do to make this better. Thanks in advance. :3
  • C1004A
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 197

    #2
    Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

    well first off, it seems like you've got syncing and putting steps to correct beats down.

    you also seem to love using hands but for that song it didnt' really seem necessary because i didn't notice any big increase in sound or loudness for hands when compared to normal jumps


    also, song choice could be better.. it sounds pretty repetitive (so a cut would be pretty nice) - otherwise, for your first time stepping, it's a great start.

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    • Mau5
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2011
      • 790

      #3
      Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

      You've got the rhythm down, now just focus on putting in patterns..

      In my opinion the 3 major steps are knowing the rhythm (listen to the song), inserting notes (rough draft), and then go back and make them into beautiful patterns (final draft)

      Patterns is where instrumentation comes in. When you hear that bass, for instance, some people try inserting a left arrow for each time the bass hits, regardless if it includes a jump (for a different instrument) or other notes in between each bass hit.

      A good example is powerpuff gabberz, play that and you can see what Hammy does in that and it's pretty genius actually haha.. Just keep experimenting and getting more experienced
      Another would be La campanella, WC did a good job syncing the arrows with the actual notes on a piano

      EXCELLENT job for the first time you've ever stepped though.. You should see my first song, it's awful....
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      • Strum
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2009
        • 102

        #4
        Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

        Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, I was really really iffy on the hands. It was pretty much the reason why I made this thread. Glad I made this thread because I wasn't really too sure how this file would look to some people if I just made it without feedback and submitted it to something.

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        • Mau5
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2011
          • 790

          #5
          Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

          Originally posted by Strum
          Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, I was really really iffy on the hands. It was pretty much the reason why I made this thread. Glad I made this thread because I wasn't really too sure how this file would look to some people if I just made it without feedback and submitted it to something.
          Haha dont ever be scared of looking for a second opinion :P i have friends look at stuff for me for pretty much everything i make or produce, It's very very helpful haha
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          • Strum
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2009
            • 102

            #6
            Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

            Ironically enough I actually thought syncing was going to be the hardest part for stepping but for the most part it's not because I don't really plan on stepping anything with insane BPM changes just yet.

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            • who_cares973
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 15407

              #7
              Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

              nice file. hand usage was cool and i get why you added them dont listen to any of these PUNK ASS BITCHES

              keep on keepin on bro and soon you'll be as good as me

              swag

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              • Strum
                FFR Player
                • Jun 2009
                • 102

                #8
                Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                Originally posted by who_cares973
                nice file. hand usage was cool and i get why you added them dont listen to any of these PUNK ASS BITCHES

                keep on keepin on bro and soon you'll be as good as me

                swag
                Lmao thanks. <3

                I originally had jumps where the hands were but I thought to myself "Ok jeez this is going to be boring to play." so I made them hands.
                Last edited by Strum; 04-12-2012, 08:49 PM.

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                • C1004A
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 197

                  #9
                  Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                  well anyhow, if you're ever gonna send in files to FFR
                  try to avoid sections like that near the end (hand+singles) because FFR judges h8 lots of hands (esp the ones at end of your file)

                  but on stepmania, hand usage is kool

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                  • who_cares973
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 15407

                    #10
                    Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                    speaking as an ffr judge i dont hate hands. actually no one hates hand and its a common misconception. please add as many hands as you want when submitting to ffr

                    sincerely,

                    wc ffr judge

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                    • C1004A
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 197

                      #11
                      Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                      carlos is lying cause evrytim i send in files w/ hands judges h8 on hands rly hard

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                      • who_cares973
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 15407

                        #12
                        Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                        not









                        even






                        :monkey:

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                        • Strum
                          FFR Player
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 102

                          #13
                          Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                          Originally posted by C1004A
                          well anyhow, if you're ever gonna send in files to FFR
                          try to avoid sections like that near the end (hand+singles) because FFR judges h8 lots of hands (esp the ones at end of your file)

                          but on stepmania, hand usage is kool
                          I'd honestly believe that if Futsuu No Uta wasn't in game. Although I can see where you're getting at. Just, the file feels really plain and awkward without them so if it gets denied then whatever, it's cool.
                          Last edited by Strum; 04-12-2012, 09:00 PM.

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                          • C1004A
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 197

                            #14
                            Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                            well im not saying hands are bad all the time

                            what i should be saying is: correctly using hands takes a lot of stepping skill, and there are not many songs that justify the usage of many hands in succession

                            but if used well, hands can help make gr8 stepfiles (it's just that it's rly hard to pull off)

                            if ur gonna submit to ffr though, good luck! u should've stepped earlier and sent it in a few days ago

                            batches dont open for months

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                            • Strum
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 102

                              #15
                              Re: I need some feedback/constructive criticism

                              Alright. :3

                              I was thinking about stepping for the batch a few days ago but I didn't think I was going to be any good at it so I didn't bother lol.

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