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  • Goldenwind
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2006
    • 762

    #1

    Um, why was 'bag' changed?

    DDR Extreme and Stepmania agree that it's a Chaos-heavy song, and the definition of Chaos applies.

    SuperNova, however, says it has about 4/10 Voltage, 4/10 Chaos, and 9-10/10 Stream.

    lol? Why?
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  • rel89
    FFR Player
    • May 2006
    • 2046

    #2
    Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

    Because Ex and SM are stupid.
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    • Goldenwind
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      • Jan 2006
      • 762

      #3
      Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

      Originally posted by rel89
      Because Ex and SM are stupid.
      The arbitrary definition of "Chaos" are notes that don't occur on the beat (Not 4ths, not 8ths)

      Songs like Insertion, bag, Tsugaru and Tino's White Horse all demonstrate this, through gallops, or other such offbeat notes.

      And now you come here and tell me it happens because it's stupid.

      What I'm getting at is, was the definition of Chaos changed when Supernova came out?

      Also, why does Sakura *still* show the wrong BPM? (Really 27-320, but DDR Ex and DDR SN show 14-300)
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      • rel89
        FFR Player
        • May 2006
        • 2046

        #4
        Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

        I'm sorry. I was just kidding.
        Are you talking about the arcade versions?
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        • Goldenwind
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          • Jan 2006
          • 762

          #5
          Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

          Originally posted by rel89
          I'm sorry. I was just kidding.
          Are you talking about the arcade versions?
          Yes.

          Stepmania, and the Extreme arcade machine both agree, displaying 'bag' as a song that is top-heavy in Chaos, and medium in Voltage/Stream.

          SuperNova displays 'bag' as top-heavy in Stream, medium in Voltage/Chaos.

          And I still don't get the Sakura thing.
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          • rel89
            FFR Player
            • May 2006
            • 2046

            #6
            Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

            They probably got lazy or there were different producers for both games.
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            • Loyal2Death
              FFR Veteran
              • Jun 2004
              • 1032

              #7
              Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

              I was under the impression that Chaos was the types of patterns of the notes. IE Tons of crossovers etc.

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              • Shashakiro
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                • Aug 2005
                • 9082

                #8
                Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                Originally posted by Loyal2Death
                I was under the impression that Chaos was the types of patterns of the notes. IE Tons of crossovers etc.

                ~-[L2D]-~
                Nope, Chaos just means the density of notes that aren't 4ths or 8ths.

                That's why So Deep has a huge Chaos meter, even though I wouldn't exactly call the file chaotic.
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                • ddr_f4n
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 3807

                  #9
                  Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                  It was like that in Supernova? I never noticed that. I should check that out next time.
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                  • Goldenwind
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 762

                    #10
                    Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                    Originally posted by ddr_f4n
                    It was like that in Supernova? I never noticed that. I should check that out next time.
                    The song "Chaos"? It's really not that chaotic. All they did was compose the song of 16th notes, all spaced apart the same distance as 4ths (Aka Yellow-Note-Symdrome). A few places it switches to Orange (32nds) and such. In my opinion, this is just a cheap way to up the meter a bit. The real difficulty is in the stops.

                    Hence another reason that proves what Chaos (The rating) is.
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                    • iPatcH
                      Swamp Lemons Rule
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #11
                      Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                      put on a donk on it

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                      • iPatcH
                        Swamp Lemons Rule
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                        • Dec 2004
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                        #12
                        Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                        put on a donk on it

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                        • iPatcH
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #13
                          Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                          put on a donk on it

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                          • iPatcH
                            Swamp Lemons Rule
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                            • Dec 2004
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                            #14
                            Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                            put on a donk on it

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                            • UberMario
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                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1777

                              #15
                              Re: Um, why was 'bag' changed?

                              I didn't notice the typo until the very last picture of it.
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