Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

[gold stinger]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

rant

pretty much everything that is audio can be considered music.

Proof of this is that I have a friend that specializes in wall noise music albums, and robotomy is more pleasing to listen to than any song over there, if you can still call it a song.

Music is merely an art of vocals, or sound. It can be as abstract as it wants to be. It's up to a person's bias whether or not it still counts as music.

To be fair though; if you posed the same question 10 years ago, there would be quite an enormous amount of people that would side with you considering 10 years ago the term "music" wasn't as vague as it is today.

link to the albums:

http://barrfparty.bandcamp.com/

[noname219]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

Someone should step 4'33".

[SK8R43]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

I cant believe i'm actually doing this but i have to thank Choof for Robotomy, Ive played it so many times(legit non mash) that my speed right now is unbelievable :O

[ilikexd]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

No rhythm, no melody, no harmony. Not sure what they mean by color.

Yes rhythm. If two or more things occur at different times they have rhythm, just in this case not as orderly or simple. Yes melody, a succession of tones. Not very melodious or pleasant to most, but melodic.

Pretty sure nobody can "play" Robotomy in realtime. Also, using the word as part of the definition? Cmon.

There's lots of music that nobody can play in real time. Those enumerated definitions just serve to show what most people think of when they hear "music" and what is commonly associated with it; they aren't strict delimiting factors of what music is allowed to be, so violating one or some of them doesn't make some audio not music.

Robotomy is made of sounds, but they are anything but "sweet, pleasing, or harmonious".

I don't strongly disagree with a lot of what you are saying on a subjective level, just any effort to exclude certain types of music from being valid from these opinions. Visual art can be discussed and criticized on the basis of composition, color, perspective, focus, realism, et cetera, but nothing ceases to be "actual" art by violating any aspects. Robotomy is incredibly unpleasing to a lot of people, but Robotomy isn't not music. It is for the first reason that it can be argued to be unacceptable on FFR, but not for the second.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

I know I'm a week behind but

How is closer to the core only a 65?

[t-rogdor]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

Someone should step 4'33".

the entire point of 4'33'' if memory serves is that each individual interprets the lack of sound in their own personal way, such that it's an entirely unique piece and experience for every member of the audience

that in mind, everyone already has a file for 4'33'' already. just open up the SM editor, hit ctrl+r, and slam out notes for exactly 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

[lurker]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

i don't know why this is coming up but uh, guys, robotomy has a discernable tempo

[noname219]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

the entire point of 4'33'' if memory serves is that each individual interprets the lack of sound in their own personal way, such that it's an entirely unique piece and experience for every member of the audience

that in mind, everyone already has a file for 4'33'' already. just open up the SM editor, hit ctrl+r, and slam out notes for exactly 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

Or make a blank file that last for 4 minutes and 33 seconds.

[bmah]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

If PWND! is here to stay, the artist should be "KnK" instead of DJ KANKAOH. The song is a collaboration between Nestlekwik and KANKAOH.

There are songs in which only one artist is credited despite others collaborating. This song as far as I know has been always labelled as by DJ Kankaoh. Do you have other evidence that the artist should be labelled as KnK?

edit @OWA: Thanks! Never saw that post before!

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

rip

@bmah, http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...8&postcount=23

I'll change it

[t-rogdor]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

hey while you're at it give me co-credit for robotomy

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

I can't give you co-credit for a file that's not in game

[Pizza69]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

rip

I'm really hoping an FFR-friendly version gets in some time, that was fun af

[t-rogdor]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

I can't give you co-credit for a file that's not in game

ahh that makes sense. no sweat then

[choof]

Re: Songs of the Week (Apr 1, 2015)

No rhythm, no melody, no harmony. Not sure what they mean by color.

robotomy is 254 bpm, the first 1/3 is 4/4

in regards to "no harmony"

a synonym for color is timbre

Pretty sure nobody can "play" Robotomy in realtime. Also, using the word as part of the definition? Cmon.

while you may not think this is "playing" music, there are a significant number of artists that utilize modular synthesis to generate real-time sound

one of my personal favorites is richard devine

(this is a video of the same track recorded "live")

https://vimeo.com/26140415

Robotomy is made of sounds, but they are anything but "sweet, pleasing, or harmonious".

this is ultimately subjective but I personally get very intense synesthetic visuals from robotomy and it was, to me, a gateway of sorts into some very interesting genres of electronic music

Devil's Music Box isn't *good*. But it is music.

devil's music box was created with the sole intent of using it as the basis for a chart, take that how you will