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  • x_lambourghini_x
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    • Aug 2009
    • 288

    #1

    Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

    So, a while ago I was playing Vertex BETA and I realised there were a couple parts in the file that made me question the difficulty a little bit. I figured it was the long bits of stream and the trills that comes before and after each section of fast stream. I was just wondering what you guys think. Should Vertex BETA stay a 10 or should it be bumped back up to 11?
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  • rayword45
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    • Feb 2007
    • 3212

    #2
    Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

    Mid-high 10 MAX.

    There are no difficultly-placed jumps compared to say, System Failure or K8107. It's long and streamy, but that's about it. It's actually not very draining at all.
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    • TC_Halogen
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      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #3
      Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

      The main stressed concept of the song is stream, and there's not much else to it (aside from the two one-handed trills, which can be jumped if you time it perfectly). Due to a lack of technicality, I'm saying 10.

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      • FontSize72LOL
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        • Nov 2007
        • 833

        #4
        Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

        Its a 10, It takes a little speed and consistency for the stream and the only hard part on this song is the 1 handed trills (For me at least as i usually dump 5+ goods there) The rest of it is pretty simple.



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        • jprox445
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2009
          • 532

          #5
          Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

          It's a 10, you just have to be consistent with streams >.> you just need stamina.. it's more leaning to the FMO side because of the length of the song not because of the difficulty...Patterns are too easy to read.

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          • tofurox
            Them arrows.
            • May 2006
            • 2263

            #6
            Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

            I still think this should be an 11. Yeah it's an easier song for index players, but now that I play spread I have to mash to even full combo it.

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            • remedy1502
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              • Feb 2007
              • 4884

              #7
              Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

              Originally posted by tofurox
              I still think this should be an 11. Yeah it's an easier song for index players, but now that I play spread I have to mash to even full combo it.
              I vote 10, but this 100%
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              • hi19hi19
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                • Oct 2005
                • 12194

                #8
                Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                I have no problem with this as a 10. The trills are a pain sure, but they are slow enough to not be worthy of FMO status.
                The main challenge is simply that it's a bit long, but not STUPIDLY long enough to make it an 11 on length alone.


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                • jimerax
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                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8185

                  #9
                  Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                  In my opinion this isn't 2 ranks higher than OTFD, which is a similar type of stream file with the same BPM, just shorter and has less trill patterns and a highest 9.

                  10, unless the reference songs are changed and cutoff lines are lowered.

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                  • SKG_Scintill
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3875

                    #10
                    Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                    *cough* onehandedtrills *cough* 200bpm *cough* 11 *cough*





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                    • hobgoblinpie
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 161

                      #11
                      Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                      For some reason I can hit the one-handed trills relatively easily, but I struggle with the rest of the song (it's just too fast for me. Things I used to consider fast before were charts like He's a pirate and Ivaltek, and now they seem pretty slow, but I still struggle with Vertex).

                      I think 11 would be quite accurate, to be honest.
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                      • ic0slay3r
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2309

                        #12
                        Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                        Its should stay a 10, a few years ago I would have said that the drop was really dumb, but by that time I just started to play spread and for me the song was hell (even thought I could SDG in index). But now I don't see any reason for the song to be a FMO: The streams are pretty straight forward, the jumps are simple, the only difficult part are the trills, but with a little practice and luck, that part becomes fairly easy.

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                        • Netjet!
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4701

                          #13
                          Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                          I don't think it should be an 11. Granted I have a hard time FCing this spread, when I was index I could FC it easily, like others have said as well. The streams are not too difficult other than how quick they come at you; you'd just need to practice all of the hard parts, including the one handed trills.
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                          • popsicle_3000
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                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4641

                            #14
                            Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

                            Originally posted by x_lambourghini_x
                            So, a while ago I was playing Vertex BETA and I realised there were a couple parts in the file that made me question the difficulty a little bit. I figured it was the long bits of stream and the trills that comes before and after each section of fast stream. I was just wondering what you guys think. Should Vertex BETA stay a 10 or should it be bumped back up to 11?
                            i'd argue against the main premise of the change: the thrills. I have huge trouble with this song, but the thrills are points in the song where I can reset myself and start the following stream from scratch. without them the song would be harder. from memory i recall a few one-handed thrills (i hope) but they aren't long enough to be that much of a problem.

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