Turbo (87 or ???)

[DissonantMuse]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Hmm, it's always difficult for me to rank songs correctly in the difficulty range of 80+ especially with a file that's based around pretty much one type of skill. I'd say anything between 84-87 would be pretty reasonable but I could definitely see this one possibly being ranked a little lower. Also I used to be good at jacks but this one wrecked me ;_;

[Dynam0]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Pardon that morning rant eze, I'm still sick and it's probably showing lol

I think turbo is easier to AAA than the other 87's and even 86's, so it should be an 85. Files like AIM Anthem (71) and Club (70) are also jacking files and are probably considered higher in difficulty (FGO level) to an average player who can't keep up with them. The same should hold true for Turbo. It plays like an 87+ for noobies but once you're good enough to keep up with it, it's an 85. I don't think this needs any more elaboration.

[Fission]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

i discussed this with rob and tried to explain what i was thinking but damn yo explained it a lot more succinctly than i could and was pretty much exactly the point i was trying to get across. +1 for bumping turbo down to 85.

[Elmerz]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Time to add my input I suppose. People shit themselves when I AAA'd club, which I feel is an easier than 70 song. It all has to do with what your skillset consists of. I can jack till there's no tomorrow (I have a feeling this will be turned in to a joke quote) but when it comes right down to it, given the jacks AND the speed of the jacks it's very difficult to be consistent. I think it's fine as an 87.

[redsea]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

I can jack till there's no tomorrow

Anyways, I think 87 is a good spot for it.

[L.B.D.D]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

i said 85 and 85 is where turbo should go ! ! !

ps go beyond is like 86

[SK8R43]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Anyways, I think 87 is a good spot for it.

This

[Fission]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

you guys are giving pretty weak reasoning for it being an 87 in contrast to what dynamo posted. not only that, the reasoning contradicts itself.

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this entire argument is hinging on the fact that a particular player isn't good at the file. you can use this to justify any rating for a file targeted to any skill set and it falls apart.

[SK8R43]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Its simple. its not as easy as the other 85's. I just looked through all the 85's and in comparison this is wayyyy harder to FC let alone score good on. The other 87's compare to this really well. I dont really care where it is because no matter where it is its still just as hard but i really dont think bumping this down is a good idea. Five AAAs? Yeah not that easy.

Jumping from 7-0-0-4 all the way to 29-0-0-2 for one rank on the scoreboard SHOWS this fact. Its HARD.

[V-Ormix]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

its a grist out of a 100

[psychoangel691]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

I personally feel like it's overrated but I'm someone that's good at jacking. Overall it seems a lot of people on FFR struggle with jacks.

[justin_ator]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

Bump it to 84 so I have more songs to attempt to get Scarhand on

[RB_Spirit]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

85

[Fission]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

I just looked through all the 85's and in comparison this is wayyyy harder to FC let alone score good on.

Five AAAs? Yeah not that easy.

the file has been out for less than a week, give me a break

the rest of your post is pretty much entirely subjective and has no place in this thread, quantify your opinion objectively or don't even bother with your opinion at all

[L.B.D.D]

Re: Turbo (87 or ???)

here sk8rboi let me break it down to you as a proper d7 player since you obviously have close to zero idea of what you're talking about

these are the current 87s

Tell v3 (Extended Mix) - requires more control as there are jacks in sets of 3s, as opposed to turbo where you can just keep jacking at a relative speed
Rage Template - has an insane 48th burst at 200bpm and lots of tricky transitions, and is also relentless all throughout the file
Red Wings Over Baron - requires serious consistency, especially the ending 4 minutes where you are thrown easy to split jumps at high speeds for 10 seconds and longer, not to mention the entire song is 7+ minutes
St. Scarhand [Heavy] - has jacks that are harder to hit than turbo, and is full of hard jack transitions as opposed to turbo
Chik Habit - relentless throughout entire file, full of rolls and we all know about that insane wall
Music (For Kirby) - absolutely insane ending, jumpjacks that are faster than turbo
Kirlian Shores - insane bursts, full of hard to read 64ths, not to mention it has a mega wall

vs

Turbo - just.. jacks and some mild jumpstream, that's it, and 5 AAAs in a week, some of them not even the usual top-end d7 players




as opposed to <5 AAAs on some of these files after 2, even 3 years