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Keep It Short [43 or 46]

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  • VisD
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2007
    • 1196

    #1

    Keep It Short [43 or 46]

    Just to refresh, under the 1-99 scale old 8s are ~35-45. 9s are 46-55.

    Therefore right now this song is a high 8. But take a look at some of the patterns...

    Right off the bat we begin with a 22112 12th pattern, which is horribly awkward by itself, not to mention when we're going cold into it. But okay...one obnoxious pattern doesn't make a C. (The pattern does repeat itself, btw)

    That's the least of it, however.

    A little later you have alternating 64th and 48th grace notes, which are confusing as hell to players of that skill level. Grace notes aren't even common in 8s except in classical/piano songs, not to mention ones with alternating colours in them. They create some confusing framers as well:



    The chart goes on like this for a while, nothing new except for a few !surprise! 12th jacks in there. So it's a mid-8 until just after the halfway mark, when an interesting [34]43[24]4[123] pattern appears out of nowhere after a slow part. The first polyrhythm appears here, and it only gets tougher.

    Soon you have 12th stream mixed with a couple of 8ths and the aforementioned 48th and 64th grace notes too. Then, this thing happens...twice:



    Since when do 8s have 8th/12th polyrhythms with 32nd bursts thrown in?

    After this there's a bunch more polyrhythms comprising of 12ths and then 16ths, with 48th graces in them.



    And that's why this song is not a 43 - it finds better company amongst things like Fantranstic than, say, Remember 15 Years Ago.


  • VisD
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2007
    • 1196

    #2
    Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

    bump cuz buried


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    • XxMidigamixX
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2010
      • 2040

      #3
      Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

      I actually agree with this being bumped up. But not sure if it should be either a 45 (which is just barely tipping onto the os (using the old 1-13 scale)) or a 46 (which is a super low 9). But yes, aside from the 32nd bursts that look like the ones from Addict (D4's round 1 file), but also the framered grace notes from elegante, which are both 10 & 9 respectively (again, using the old 1-13 scale to explain it better). As for the stats, here's three files that are around the same difficulty (1 being exactly the same difficulty as Keep it Short and 2 in the 9s area) with similar release dates (excluding some recent releases), and similar amount of number of players that have played these files, and with that extensive overlooks on the files being compared to Keep it Short:


      Keep It Short
      Musician: Beatdrop
      Step Artist: bmah
      Level Number: 1537
      Song Genre: Hip-Hop
      Song Style: Techno
      Difficulty: 43
      Release Date: 10-20-11
      Song Length: 2:02
      Number of AAAs: 95
      Number of FCs: 288
      Number of Players: 1,285
      # of Times Played: 2,897

      Doomsday
      Musician: Red Blank
      Step Artist: bmah
      Level Number: 1527
      Song Genre: Rock
      Song Style: Gloomy Rock
      Difficulty: 43
      Release Date: 10-06-11
      Song Length: 2:50
      Number of AAAs: 103
      Number of FCs: 299
      Number of Players: 1,325
      # of Times Played: 2,752

      Yukitsuki-yashou
      Musician: guna
      Step Artist: leonid
      Level Number: 1525
      Song Genre: Secret
      Song Style: Instrumental
      Difficulty: 49
      Release Date: 09-29-11
      Song Length: 2:30
      Number of AAAs: 171
      Number of FCs: 441
      Number of Players: 1,453
      # of Times Played: 4,221

      Comfortably Lost
      Musician: NickPerrin
      Step Artist: MarioNintendo
      Level Number: 1502
      Song Genre: Funk
      Song Style: Jazz
      Difficulty: 49
      Release Date: 08-25-11
      Song Length: 1:50
      Number of AAAs: 106
      Number of FCs: 398
      Number of Players: 1,615
      # of Times Played: 4,180

      Daybreak
      Musician: -RYO-
      Step Artist: Silvuh
      Level Number: 1706
      Song Genre: Dance
      Song Style: Trancecore
      Difficulty: 44
      Release Date: 05-26-12
      Song Length: 1:55
      Number of AAAs: 104
      Number of FCs: 273
      Number of Players: 1,488
      # of Times Played: 3,174

      obviously from looking at this, it is pretty obvious that out of the bunch, Keep it Short has not only less AAAs, but also less FCs than the rest of these files, including Yukitsuki-yashou and Comfortably Lost, both are which are 49s.


      Here's also the NPS graph for each files:
      Daybreak


      Comfortably Lost


      Yukitsuki-yashou


      Keep it Short


      Doomsday


      Aside from Daybreak, Keep it Short's highest NPS mark is higher than Comfortably Lost and Yukitsuki-yashou and is the same as Doomsday, but its also more sporadic than both of the 49s mentioned on here, which are more constant and stable.


      Since VisD already showed the parts that are derpish in KiS, here's the tricky spots in the other songs.

      Daybreak



      ^roll @ 503-510 followed by a [34] jump


      ^alternating mini-jacks that is easily bootrap for those who lack consistency


      Comfortably Lost
      will go into depth later on


      Yukitsuki-yashou
      will go into depth later


      Doomsday
      will go into depth later


      this is pretty much a w.i.p. int othe details, but as soon as I go into depth for each part, it will come out cleanly as in the end, Keep it Short should be bumped into a 46.
      Last edited by XxMidigamixX; 08-21-2012, 11:47 AM. Reason: adding more stuff, still a W.I.P.
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      • Xx{Midnight}xX
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2007
        • 8548

        #4
        Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

        You guys pretty much covered everything there is to cover. Yeah this chart should be bumped to 46.

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        • nois-or-e
          SponCon Aficionado
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2007
          • 3250

          #5
          Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

          If the general agreement is leaning towards 46, I'll mention this in Diff chat today and bump it up if there aren't any qualms in doing so ;D

          @VisD: A-grade OP here for the diff sub forum, exactly what we want to see ;D

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          • One Winged Angel
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            • Mar 2007
            • 10837

            #6
            Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

            +1 for gr8 OP, played the file and agree with the bump for reasons stated in OP


            Originally posted by ilikexd
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            • nois-or-e
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              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2007
              • 3250

              #7
              Re: Keep It Short [43 or 46]

              Bumping it up now, hang 5 ;D

              Edit: Done, thanks for the great thread guys.
              Last edited by nois-or-e; 08-21-2012, 09:29 PM.

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